Immediate thoughts on Week 10
Nov
2005
OK, so I’ve written in the past about my concerns about Rowan (Immediate thoughts on Week 7 and Week 9). Today my fears came true. Rowan couldn’t muster up enough offense (or, according to observers, much of a sense of urgency) in a 20-19 loss at William Paterson. When was the last time William Paterson was the lead story on D3football.com? Sept. 19, 2002, for a Mark Simon Feature on a pair of Pioneers who returned to football after returning from military service.
Funny, when I started to write that sentence, my assumption was “never” — but I checked it out.
Rowan needs to come out firing next week. They won’t get into the playoffs with two losses, not in their final two games. There might be a two-loss team that gets in the field somewhere, but not in this situation. Rowan wins and it’s in (beating both Cortland State and Montclair, the other two teams they’d be tied with). If Montclair wins, Cortland goes to the playoffs because Cortland beat Montclair.
Nice little 32-0 run, Whitewater. That was another one of the early scores that sent ripples through knowledgeable D-III fans.
Who’d have thought that we could have six potential playoff teams meeting at the Monon Bell, Cortaca Jug and Dutchman Shoes games next week? Cortaca won’t have any effect on whether either team makes the playoffs (Cortland’s at-large bid chances are a longshot at best, they wouldn’t even be the best two-loss team out there) but Ithaca is in and Cortland will be scoreboard-listening. RPI almost didn’t make it to this dance, however, needing a late TD to beat Rochester.
Capital had another great day on defense. In fact, if you throw out the Mount Union game, Capital has allowed just 7.6 points per game all season. Usually I’m not in favor of throwing out a game to make a point, but Capital has allowed just 11.4 points per contest even with that game, and shoot, for most of the past decade the Purple Raiders have been the Priceline of offense — you know, name your own score.
Only today did McDaniel refute my hypothesis that their 4-1 season could very well turn into 4-6. The Green Terror had lost four in a row before beating Muhlenberg today 13-6.
Ferrum clinched its first playoff bid since 1990, UW-Whitewater its first since 1997, and Johns Hopkins its first ever. Welcome to the show. See you on ESPNews in a week.
If Crown plays Southwest Assemblies of God and nobody reports a score, does it count?
E-mail of the day:
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Subject: What About Rowan
Notes: I consistanly monitor your website and I think that it great, however you never write anything about Rowan football. Rowan has been at the top of Division III football for many years and you never give them any respect. I would like to see anything about Rowan football Thanks
I think the moral of the story is, don’t complain about lack of respect on Saturday morning. Save it for the blog. Ugh.
November 6th, 2005 at 6:33 am
We said the last two weeks of the seaon in upstate New York would be exciting. With Union’s win yesterday it all comes down to their game with RPI. Tipped hats to Hobart. They have a great club. It wasn’t to be yesterday. They may not be out of it yet with an RPI victory next week. We also said at one point Union may be the worst undefeated team in the land. Yesterday’s win certainly dignifies their season. I think we can now throw out that indictment. In any event, all three teams have had a fabulous year. But Union gets the prize (thus far) for magic!
November 6th, 2005 at 7:40 am
Guess I will go ahead and have my crow for breakfast. Congrats to Averett for their victory over CNU.
Had the pleasure of seeing H-SC totally dismantle the Hopkins D Sat. The game was actually more lopsided than the score. Oh to have the last 3 minutes of the W&L or BC game back for another shot.
Congrats to the Jays for getting in.
November 6th, 2005 at 10:06 am
how bout them panthers and that sufficiently…..nearly perfect day of offense?? the panthers had 9 drives resulting in TDs out of 10 possessions. those panthers have done more then enough to prove that their offense can score on anyone at anytime. congrats to the 05 USA SOUTH CONFERENCE CHAMPS!!!!!
November 6th, 2005 at 11:20 am
Just wanted to give a shoutout to the Scots for completing their 10-0 season with a 48-0 bashing of rival Knox. Despite winning their 6th straight Bronze Turkey, that is always a game that worries you due to the impact that it has on the two schools. I would like to tell you that the records don’t matter when this game is played…but that would be a lie.
And how about QB Mitch Tanney’s day….21-23 with 405 yds and 5 TD’s…in 3 quarters of play! He currently has a season completion % of 74.4, which would be a new D3 record. He has also tossed 33 TD’s to just 3 INT’s. How’s that for efficiency.
MC’s leading rusher Dante Daniels (851 yds, 12 TD) didn’t even touch the ball.
Also, congrats to Augustana for wrapping up the CCIW crown with a thrilling win over #11 NCC. And can Whitewater get any better? Just wondering.
November 6th, 2005 at 11:44 am
For someone who isn’t quite sure how the LL and NCAA bids will work…what are the scenarios for each of the three teams to make it to the NCAA’s? Also, I agree with theduke….big tip of the hat to my Statesman! Hold your heads high and finish strong!
November 6th, 2005 at 11:46 am
Three teams from the LL making the NCAA’s????
Sorry not going to happen, however i can see them getting two bids.
November 6th, 2005 at 11:52 am
Three LL teams is very possible, actually. Will have to run the numbers later in the week but I think right now we’ll have three LL teams in our projections.
November 6th, 2005 at 12:02 pm
Sorry, allsky7, you’re not getting those last 3 minutes against BC (&W&L) back anytime soon. It serves you guys right to put so much emphasis on one game, have your coach engage in trash talking, and have it blow up in your face. We’ll see you pink bow tie wearing preppies again next year and beat you OUR WAY at our place. Go Eagles!
November 6th, 2005 at 2:02 pm
“you’re not getting those last 3 minutes against BC (&W&L) back anytime soon. It serves you guys right to put so much emphasis on one game
,have your coach engage in trash talking, and have it blow up in your face. We’ll see you pink bow tie wearing preppies again next year and beat you OUR WAY at our place.”
WOW, such talk from someone (player / former player/fan?) that is one terrible roughing the passer call in 03 and one play away in 05 from losing 2 of 3 to a bunch of “bow tie wearing preppies.” I know, I know, it didn’t happen so I’ll save you the time of a comeback line.
Not familiar with the “trash talking” you refer to. Only trash talking I have heard is in quotes above. Careful now, don’t forget that BC was the worst team in the ODAC for 20 years prior to 2000. Things have a way of coming full circle.
For the record: I’m a blue jean wearing and 4 wheel truck driving “redneck” Ferrum and Maryville alum. Don’t even own a bow tie.
Congrats to the Eagles and good luck in the playoffs! Perhaps a Ferrum / BC matchup?! That could be fun.
November 6th, 2005 at 2:22 pm
Well, I guess I had it coming. In the meantime, though, as a BC alum who lived through many years of losing records and an underfunded program, it sure is great to be winning. According to my compadre Texashorn, a matchup between us and Ferrum in the first round may well be forthcoming. Stay tuned on Selection Sunday. We’ll be looking forward to meeting up with y’all if not on Nov. 19, sometime in 2006.
November 6th, 2005 at 2:54 pm
I don’t see 3 LL teams making the NCAA, I would love to see it, I hope to see it, but I just don’t think in fairness to other more powerful conferences that three deserve it. On that note i feel there should be no question that 2 should. After thinking about it, Union should really be in already after yesterday victory over an excellent Hobart team (If I was a Hobart fan I would be very proud of their effort, they are a class act!) I see Union and Hobart getting in if Union defeats RPI, if Union loses I think RPI and Union deserve to go. What an aboslutly exciting time here in upstate NY for the LL teams! Dutchmen deserve respect, hopefully next week they will leave all doubters on there bare bottoms!
November 6th, 2005 at 3:30 pm
I think the Liberty will have difficulty getting three teams no matter what: this is my projected east bracket (no particular order):
Del Valley
Ithaca
Union
Fitchburg State
Curry
Rowan (Cortland if the lose this week)
St John Fisher
Hobart or RPI
November 6th, 2005 at 3:49 pm
So who gets the other Pool C bids in your projection? You can’t just project a bracket in isolation.
November 6th, 2005 at 5:21 pm
PCOLE, Here it goes….
Pool A’s
Wabash
Augustana
Mt St Joseph
Lakeland
Mt Union
Albion
UW WHItewater
Fitchburg State or Curry (Not sure if the NEFC gets one or two bids with 14 teams)
Ithaca
Rowan or Cortland
Union
Delaware Valley
Mary Hardin Baylor
Johns Hopkins
Bridgewater
Trinity Tx
Ferrum
Coe
Occidental
St Johns
Monmouth
Pool B’s
Wesley
Huntingdon
Thiel
Linfield
Outside looking in Washington and jefferson
Pool C’s
North Central
St John Fisher
Depauw
Hardin Simmons
Cal Lutheran
Concordia Moorhead
Hobart
Outside looking in Central
November 6th, 2005 at 5:29 pm
ICfootball, HSU has the Pool A in the ASC because of a projected higher winning percentage (HSU = .900 vs UMHB = .889). The UMHB at Louisiana College game was canceled due to Hurricane Rita, whose path went right over Pineville LA that day.
November 6th, 2005 at 5:48 pm
Thanks to ICFOOTBALL for putting Wabash at the head of the Pool A’s–hope that bodes well for the Little Giants playoff run. But let’s not get ahead of ourselves. Monon Bell means more than just bragging rights this year. I can’t wait to see Keith’s take on The Big Game.
November 6th, 2005 at 5:53 pm
Sorry for the confusion all. I meant how are two of the teams getting in? As in if Union wins and wins the LL outright who should get the second bid if any? Or is RPI gets in and there is a three way tie what are the scenarios? I guess there is no exact science for this but I was just curious what everyone’s opinions were. Those who responded I agree though. Thanks for the feedback!
November 6th, 2005 at 6:28 pm
Statesman,
I think if Union beats RPI, Union and Hobart are in. If Union loses (I think RPI owns the tiebreaker) RPI and Union will go in. I know i’d be leaving Hobart out but I just dont see the NCAA taking 3 teams from 1 conference in the Eastern Region.
November 6th, 2005 at 6:30 pm
Right you are, DaddyO. Home field advantage throughout the playoffs is a big deal. Not to mention returning the Monon Bell to its natural habitat in Crawfordsville.
November 6th, 2005 at 6:51 pm
lg1970 and DaddyO, the problem that i see for Wabash is that i think the NCAA will keep UW WHitewater in the NOrth as the number one seed. I could see Wabash as the two. I think that Wabash will have to beat Mt Union at home and if they do that then go on the road to beat UW WHitewater in the quarterfinals.
I dont see Linfield, St Johns and UW Whitewater all is the west.
November 6th, 2005 at 6:59 pm
Upstate:
So what exactly is the tiebreaker in the LL. Oddly enough even though I played four years in the league I still don’t think I know it? What a great year it has been though in the upstate. Would be very interesting to see SJF paired up with Hobart in the first round or even Hobart paired up with Ithaca. Both teams were dropped from the statesman’s schedule to make room for the LL schedule. SJF got the last laugh in a series dominated recently by the statesman with a 20-12 win in 2003, so I know alot of players would be geared up for a game with them. Although Ithaca always seems to come up big with us I know that would also be an interesting game to see.
November 6th, 2005 at 7:11 pm
Keith McMillan covered that and other three-way tiebreakers that could come into play in this past week’s Around the Nation.
November 6th, 2005 at 7:22 pm
Thanks Pcole. I guess that makes it even harder on the statesman for dropping both SJF and Ithaca from their schedule. Although you never know how they would have faired (won or lost) it surely would have helped in that category seeing as Dickinson and F&M are both sub .500 Just have to wait and see what team will get snubbed because all three have been terrific.
November 6th, 2005 at 9:29 pm
“SJF got the last laugh in a series dominated recently by the statesman with a 20-12 win in 2003″
Dont forget the 17-14 win in 2002 over then ranked Hobart!
November 7th, 2005 at 7:25 am
This week’s Ferrum game vs. CNU has similar implications surrounding it as the game did two years ago; however this time the shoe is on the other foot. Two years ago CNU had already won the conference, but still had to travel to Ferrum for the final game to sew up home field for the first round. The talk all week was about how long the starters would play against Ferrum, and the focus was not on winning the game. Ferrum took advantage of the Captains overlooking them and defeated them and deflated them going into the playoffs. I know that Ferrum learned a lot from that situation, and trust me when I say that Ferrum will give everything that they have to win this game this weekend. They will not be looking past the Captains, and they will be motivated to remain undefeated…for the next five weeks!!!!! EYE ON THE PRIZE BLACK HATS!!!!!!!!!!!!!
November 7th, 2005 at 7:58 am
As a former player and fan of NYS DIII football for over 30 years I would like to agree that ‘05 certainly has been a banner year upstate. With the impending potential matchups of 2 teams from each league in the playoffs I can’t wait for the building rivalry between the Empire8 and the LL to play out on the field. By the way “upstater”, the last time “U” met Ithaca was a ‘99 ECAC game won by the Dutchmen 31-7 and lets not forget RPI’s 21-16 win over the bombers in the “03 playoffs.
November 7th, 2005 at 9:20 am
ICFOOTBALL… Whoever wins Saturday between Fitchburg State and Curry will go to the NCAAs and attempt — notice I say attempt — to get off the 0-6 NEFC schneid… more than likely, the loser will go to the ECACs… it is very possible that the NEFC will have three teams involved in the postseason — Bridgewater State finished the year 8-1 and will also be in the hunt for the ECACs
November 7th, 2005 at 9:39 am
Would love to see a Fisher-Hobart first round match-up…good rivalry from the ’90’s. SJF needs to take care of business this week against Alfred!
November 7th, 2005 at 2:10 pm
YES!!! Holy smokes what game! Augustana over North Central! Augie does it again. I’m telling you, the CCIW is tough as nails, and if you can win that conference, then you are going places.
SWEEEEEEET!!!!!!!!
Next week is Wheaton.
Congrats to Monmouth College on winning again, and going undefeated for the season. Thank you for beating Knox. I never have liked Knox, especially since one of Bill Clintons goons became the new president of the college. I am glad you guys destoyed them.
November 7th, 2005 at 3:03 pm
I was wondering does anyone know if Wesley clinched an automatic berth? Brockport State won in a head up matchup between the two and could end the season with the same conference record of 4-1? Just wondering.
November 7th, 2005 at 3:21 pm
The ACFC does not have an automatic berth. I am the conference SID for the ACFC
November 7th, 2005 at 3:52 pm
Only conferences with seven or more active Division III members receive automatic bids. The PAC will receive its automatic bid in 2007, most likely, after a two-year waiting period. The ACFC is not eligible for an automatic bid, regardless of membership.
November 7th, 2005 at 5:19 pm
Pat thanks for the bit of info. Another question is what Conferences may have two teams chosen? I am thinking the OAC has to be at least one of them.
November 7th, 2005 at 5:32 pm
what good is a message board if someone doesnt pee in the pot every once in a while?
I am wondering when more than one OAC team is actually going to be taken seriously. I realize that I may be a little biased, but this statement is meant for every OAC team to have finished second since Mount Unions reign of dominance began.
Each year every OAC team seemingly starts the season with one automatic loss to Mount. And every year that loss gets held against them. There are dominating teams in every conference, but none have dominated like Mount, and I think that should be taken into consideration before blowing off another OAC team from Playoff selection.
Why is it so difficult for a second or third OAC team to make the playoffs??? In recent years the OAC teams that were given a chance in the playoffs easily defeated their higher ranked opponents until stumbling against their heated conference rival, Mount Union. ONU in 1999 and the JCU Arth-Streaks ring most recent, among others. Every year the games played between the top 4 OAC teams are dogfights that come down to the final few minutes. Coincidence?…I think not. 2nd place in the OAC is good enough to be #1 in just about every conference throughout the country, and 3rd place isn’t too shabby either.
There have been plenty OAC schools that did not make the playoffs that most likely would have faired very well in the playoffs had they not been “snubbed.” I think its silly to overlook the second and third place OAC team when they play in one of the toughest conferences in DIII football, against what is considerably one of its greatest teams and coaches.
There will always be teams that get snubbed. Everyone has their turn, but given the circumstances over that past 10+ years I think more attention needs to be given to the “other” OAC schools come playoff time.
I think it should be an automatic playoff spot to whichever team finishes second in the OAC.
-talk to me
November 7th, 2005 at 5:35 pm
rbrockwell, that’s what we do playoff projections for.
ONUalum, this is not the year to cry about the automatic loss to Mount Union, since your school proved it’s not automatic.
The “other” OAC schools get plenty of attention and whenever one finishes with one regional loss, you can basically count on them getting in.
November 7th, 2005 at 6:49 pm
SeanGOP,
Were you at the Augie-North Central game? If so, I’m curious, listening to it on the radio, it sounded like there was some really questionable calls on Augie’s last drive. Personal foul, a bad spot, and the late off sides on the blocked FG. They made it sound like the stripes had money on the home team. Said the North Central coaches chased after the zebras after the game.
Boy the elements really cooperated with Augie too. I saw North Central once this year on nice afternoon and their O was unstoppable. I remember thinking at the time they might be in trouble on a sloppy late Oct, early Nov Saturday. Saw Augie play Carthage and thought they were outplayed, but they came up with one big defensive play after another. In typical Augie fashion they found a way to win.
I’d hate to play either one of them in the playoffs. Lots of players on both rosters. Also think Augie-North Central is going to be quite a rivalry game for years to come.
November 8th, 2005 at 7:47 am
GoScotties:
You are right–Tanney has had a terrific year. Is my memory correct that he began at Wabash, but later transferred, as he did not believe he would play much there? Now Wabash and Monmouth have two of the best quarterbacks in the country. Russ Harbaugh has also completed more than 70% of his passes and has only three interceptions on the year. Good luck to both schools in the playoffs.
November 8th, 2005 at 10:49 am
Hasbeen,
Only non-winners rag about questionable calls. If I was North Central I would look for any excuse other than being outplayed. A win is a win, and Augie has beaten some good (great) teams. Augie would have won by even more had they not fumbled a couple of times.
The elements did favor Augie - rain and wind does not do much for a team that depends on the pass. However, Augie leads the nation in interceptions, so the one pass they intercepted was low. Though Augie had to run in the rain, and that contributed to the fumbles.
Augie - North Central game as a rivalry game? Sure, over the last couple of years it has been a good match-up. But Augie has won them all but one in the last 25 or 30 years.
I am so looking forward to the playoffs. IS D3 FOOTBALL.COM DOING A PLAYOFF POOL THIS YEAR? LET ME KNOW.
Augie at Wheaton this weekend. Yet another tough game for Augie in a conference that is tough as nails (just ask the CCIW non-confernence foes - the CCIW was 21-3, the best in tha nation).
GO AUGIE!!!!
November 8th, 2005 at 10:57 am
thejudge:
You may be correct, I know that Tanney transferred, I’m just not sure where he came from. If it was Wabash, I can only imagine the competition that existed for that starting QB job. There were, however, other circumstances which led to him arriving at MC. His father played basketball for the Scots, and he came in ‘04, the year after MC record holder Rob Purlee graduated. I’m sure he saw an opportunity to step in as the starter right away. He’s had one of the best years in MC history: nearly 2500 yds, 33TD’s, only 3 INT’s and he was a semi-finalist for the Draddy Award. Not to shabby. It would be quite a storyline if MC and WC met in the playoffs. Probably won’t happen though (unless it’s in the Stagg Bowl).
November 8th, 2005 at 11:30 am
Hey Everyone,
Check this site out:
http://www.masseyratings.com/rate.php?lg=cf
It is the Massey Ratings for Division III football, and it is very interesting. It ranks the teams, the conferences and the schedules.
November 8th, 2005 at 11:44 am
GoScotties:
The playoff matchup had also occurred to me–it would be interesting. Regardless, the two schools and quarterbacks have had great years so far, and hopefully their seasons will continue for a few more games. Wabash has a tough game with a very good (it hurts me to say that) DePauw team this Saturday, so their playoff thoughts have to be delayed a while longer.
November 8th, 2005 at 2:02 pm
I’m really wondering what everyones thoughts are about the Midwest/Great Lakes playoff picture.
Any thoughts of where Mount St. Joseph is going to wind up traveling to in the first round?
Any chance for a home game?
November 8th, 2005 at 2:16 pm
MountMANIAC
I’m guessing that Mount St. Joseph will be headed to Mount Union or Wabash. Things can change this Saturday, though.
November 8th, 2005 at 2:29 pm
i think that the midwest/greatlakes region might look like this: the only question is if the NCAA will have two teams from the same conference play each other in the first round:
1. UW WHItewater
2. Wabash
3. Mt Union
4. Augustana
5. North Central
6. MT St Joseph
7. Albion
8. Lakeland
November 8th, 2005 at 2:51 pm
SeanGOP,
So you weren’t at the game? My only info came from some student radio announcers. That’s why I asked. Why so defensive bro?
“Augie would have won by even more had they not fumbled a couple of times”. Maybe. Maybe not. Maybe North Central wins had the weather cooperated. Does it really matter?
“Though Augie had to run in the rain, and that contributed to the fumbles”. And so did the defense.
After seeing both play Carthage, North Central wins 9 out of 10 times, especially on a dry track. Maybe they meet again in the playoffs? Until then, its just one Man’s opinion.
I’ve got nothing against Augie. Its a great academic institution with tremendous football tradition. Congratulations on your 5,734th conference championship.
November 8th, 2005 at 6:17 pm
Well, this is my first year in college football and the proud parent of an Averett University player. I enjoy reading these comments each week and looks like Averett doesn’t have many readers or if they do, they don’t comment. So I will take the opportunity to do some clapping for Averett. First of all congrats to Kyle Wilson who rushed for over 200 yards against a fine team (CNU) this past Saturday. Kyle has now rushed for over 1000 yards this season and has one more game left to get 60+ yards, which will break the Conference record. Also congrats go to Averetts kickers…they made 6 of 7 field goals against CNU and they both broke a school record of making 3 each. Their combined 6 I belive breaks a Conference record. And finally congrats to Mike Dunley, head coach of Averett for securing his 3rd winning season in a row. Mike has been at the school just 4 years and really got things going in the right direction. A win over Chowan this week will give the Cougars a 7-3 season and a 3rd place finish in the conference standings. What a great way to start his recruiting with a great year.
November 8th, 2005 at 7:30 pm
I would also like to give my congratulations to Averett on a fine season and also an exciting win last Saturday against CNU. Thanks for ensuring Ferrum goes to the Playoffs this year. Its nice to hear that Kyle Wilson rushed for over 200 yards against CNU. It’s no telling how many yards the D3 #1 rushing team in the Nation will be able to put up against them. Its nice to see CNU not in the top 3 in the conference this year.
November 8th, 2005 at 10:48 pm
I just got done looking at the d3football poll of the week asking which will be the biggest rivalry this week. How in the world can the biggest rivalry in Div. III football be left off the list? Wabash and Depauw are a combined 17-1. This game has postseason implications for both teams and the all time series is once again tied. Last year, this game was the highest attended game in all of Div. III football only being bested by the national championship and the semi-finals. I think this is huge oversite by D3.
November 8th, 2005 at 10:49 pm
ICFOOTBALL:
Should Wabash lose to DePauw (I shudder just thinking it and don’t believe it will happen….but) and the remaining seven teams in the North win, how would you revise your rankings? And why, for heaven’s sake, is Trinity ranked first in the South? MH-B would clean the Tigers’ clock 99 times out of 100 this year….
November 8th, 2005 at 10:58 pm
I put it on the poll at 10:35 p.m.
I apologize for the error. I’ve had about five hours of sleep each of the past two nights, I’m working 40 hours a week at my day job and about 50 on the site. Cut me some slack — and perhaps make sure your post is still accurate when you make it.
November 8th, 2005 at 11:23 pm
pcole:
No apologies necessary. You guys at D3football.com do a tremendous job given that your efforts are truly a labor of love. All D3 football fans are beneficiaries of your hard work, and I think all of us who blog here or merely view the website appreciate what you do. Get some well-deserved rest tonite.
November 9th, 2005 at 12:30 am
Yeah Pcole I was just curious how Wabash vs Depauw could be left off the list. You guys are my first and only source for Div. III stats and learning about what is happening around the nation. Hope you guys continue your great work.
November 9th, 2005 at 10:16 am
You’ve got to give Huntingdon lots of props. They are only in the third year of their football program and have only one loss (at Trinity) after leading until late in the game. If Trinity is possibly going to be the # 1 seed in a region, you would think the Hawks deserve solid consideration for one of the 32 NCAA bids. They have to finish business against Maryville at home on Saturday…but I can’t belive there are 32 teams in the country better than them.
November 9th, 2005 at 11:04 am
Hawk Fan:
I’m in agreement about the tremendous progress that program has made in three years. Two years ago, Wabash beat the Hawks 61-13. Even as a Wabash grad, I dare say that a game played now would be quite different, although I would hope the winner would be the same. What do you think accounts for their success?
November 9th, 2005 at 11:06 am
Hasbeen,
Yes, I was at the Augustana game where Augustana beat yet another ranked team. It was cold and wet and cold.
If you listen to student announcers for commentary, they will probably be biased for whoever they represent.
WHo is your team? Principia?
November 9th, 2005 at 11:58 am
Well just to throw it out there, The Ferrum CNU game has become quite the rivalry. It may not be a long lived one, but it has had implications on playoff berths since the beginning. Though this years game does not have many implications on the Playoffs, CNU is probably looking to put a chink in Ferrum’s Armor.
November 9th, 2005 at 1:11 pm
lg1970.
Unfortunatley, the subjectivity is supposed to be out of the tournament selction procedures. So, yes, trinity would likely be the number one seed, and ferrum and thiel with unbeaten records would like be in the top 4 with mary hardin baylor. Its all about the numbers.
To answer your question about if wabash lost…it might then look like this:
1. UW WHItewater
2. Mt Union
3. Augustana
4. North Central
5. Wabash
6. MT St Joseph
7. Albion
8. Lakeland
November 9th, 2005 at 1:28 pm
Hawk Fan,
Good to see another HC fan here, welcome. I also feel that we are good enough to be in the field of 32 but we also have to realize that our strength of schedule(or Quality of Wins Index, as the NCAA calls it) is not very good as Trinity is the only team we have played that is above .500. It’s becasue of this that even with a win this week, we most likely still need several other 1 loss teams to lose this week. Then all we can do is wait for the selection show on Sunday to see if we can get in.
November 9th, 2005 at 3:14 pm
The Judge,
I just don’t like the fact that HC may be penalized for strength of schedule when (as an independent D III team) they have essentially said they will play anyone. It is not like they can be choosy in the make-up of their schedule.
HC is fortunate to have a great group of coaches (and AD) who truly understand the D III structure and how to recruit to it. Even with Auburn and Alabama having a “hold” on so many fans, the school still has its own fan base that is very passionate about what these young men are accomplishing. It doesn’t get much better as a college football fan to experience football games at this level!
November 9th, 2005 at 3:23 pm
I want to give some love to UWOshkosh for making the Playoffs. If they beat the underachieving UW-Lacroose on Saturday, they will be 8-2, with 1 loss to UW-Whitewater. The WIAC deserves 2 playoff bids due to the toughness of our conference.
November 9th, 2005 at 4:15 pm
I agree with UWPC77 Superfan. The WIAC deserves two teams due to the fact that they are the toughest conference in the nation. Divide that team up into different conferences and they would contend in every single one.
You know the CCIW is getting two.
November 9th, 2005 at 5:28 pm
SeanGOP,
Thank you for elightening about me student radio. Unfortunately, ESPN wasn’t airing the Augie-North Central game last Sat, so I had to settle for North Central student radio. (Sarcasm off) This is why I asked you about the game. Thanks for avoiding the question….twice.
Who’s my team? Wheaton this week.
November 9th, 2005 at 7:19 pm
Ferrum 42….CNU 17. CNU, while having been beat on this year, is a talented, well coached team….that also had a more than legitimate shot at the playoffs. If the Panthers can’t win the game by something close to those margins, their trip to the playoffs may be short.
November 9th, 2005 at 7:59 pm
Well I think the Offense will put at least 42 on the score board. I would not bet against CNU putting up around 28. CNU has played very well at times, losing to former #4 ranked team Rowan by only one TD. I agree this game will help show where Ferrum ranks on a national level. I am worried about how the team will react and play knowing for the first time all year that the game does not have that much emphasis on the playoffs other than seeding.
November 9th, 2005 at 8:13 pm
SeanGOP:
OK, your turn.
November 9th, 2005 at 10:34 pm
alright here is the prediction: FERRUM 56 CNU 21…..FERRUM’s offense is continue to come out strong and put up points at will, but the the first quarter will be the last of the struggles….both teams will come out firing hard, but after FERRUM gets up a couple look for CNU to fold up the tent, having nothing to play for, add also to the equation that FERRUM’s D tends to settle in and play their game in the second, and as in the first half FERRUM’s O will put up point late into the fourth. at halftime: FERRUM 35 CNU 14
November 9th, 2005 at 11:36 pm
My two cents…it will be a lot closer than any of you are suggesting. CNU has very little pressure, but they can’t lose any ground in recruiting (despite being a state school). They have a lot to play for, and my guess is that those athletes that they have will try to pull it together for one last effort against the Panthers. In the brief history of the conference, no team has won the conference out-right, so the Panthers will be up against an inspired CNU Captain team. My prediction…28-24 Ferrum.
November 10th, 2005 at 10:05 am
Hasbeen,
Ok, yes I was at that game frozen solid in the rain. Well worth it to see two great teams go at it. I was quite nervous the whole time because I knew either team could pull it out. With North Central’s sizzling air game and Augie’s killer ground game it made the whole place freak out.
Don’t make excuses for North Central - they lost (barely, but they lost). I know North Central is going to the playoffs (they will win big this weekend), and I know Augie may have to play them again. I think I’d rather Augie play the Green Bay Packers instead of an angry North Central team.
I do know this, if you are in the CCIW and you make the playoffs, then opponents better be ready.
I’m sorry ESPN didn’t cover the game. You are lucky North Central radio covered the game, Augie games are rarely on the radio in the Quad Cities. I’d rather sit cozy in my pad and listen to the game while watching college football on mute instead of speed drinking hot chocolate to avoid freezing solid.
And yes, the Wheaton game makes me nervous because I know they are a darn good team (just like the rest of the CCIW).
Have a good one.
November 10th, 2005 at 2:40 pm
SeanGOP,
If this sites scenario holds true, you may not have to worry about an angry North Central. At Mount Union first round becuase they won’t match the CCIW up in the first round……Ouch!
Wheaton is up and down. Will be a tough game though.
Explain this to me about the CCIW. If North Central wins, and Augie loses at Wheaton, North Central is 8-1 and Augie 7-2 (Both 5-1 in conference). Does the CCIW take head to head over overall record? Just curious b/c everyone has crowned Augie already.
Thanks
November 10th, 2005 at 3:00 pm
I do not know of one single Division III conference that considers overall record before head-to-head in breaking a tie.
November 10th, 2005 at 3:14 pm
Hasbeen,
I have read that if Augie loses at Wheaton and North Central wins, that Augie will still be the conference champs (even though they and N Central would both have 1 conference loss) due to the fact that Augie beat N. Central head-to-head.
I am going to go through withdrawl after the Stagg Bowl.
November 10th, 2005 at 8:21 pm
SeanGOP and Hasbeen:
Glad to see the love again. Now if only a DePauw blogger would speak up…..
Ditto the withdrawal sentiment.
December 19th, 2006 at 1:30 pm
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Thank you, I could not have sead it better my self.