Comments on: ATN podcast: What a weekend

By: dcfbguy1

dcfbguy1 — Fri, 02 Nov 2007 06:05:17 +0000

easier*

By: dcfbguy1

dcfbguy1 — Fri, 02 Nov 2007 06:04:53 +0000

LoL, good point… Posting here is a little bit wasier tho… HaHa

By: D3Keith

D3Keith — Fri, 02 Nov 2007 05:50:16 +0000

How come every thread turns into a LL discussion? Does the LL board not leave any room to actually talk football?

By: labart96

labart96 — Thu, 01 Nov 2007 21:17:49 +0000

Last year Cortland was 9-1 and was left out of the NCAAs. An 8-2 Hobart could have the same fate.

By: res ipsa loquitur

res ipsa loquitur — Wed, 31 Oct 2007 16:39:16 +0000

I did mean that they control their own fate to get an at large bid. I was going on the assumption that if they are the 3rd, 4th, or 5th ranked team in the East that they would get an at large. Of course, at large bids are not locks, so saying that they control their own fate entirely is misleading. But if they win out against decent competition, their prospects for an NCAA bid will certainly not be “bleak.” I think that they would deserve a bid given the fact their two close (one OT) losses are to teams that have 2 combined, and that they will be hot going in. In the event that they are left out, it will be interesting (and perhaps painful to us Pumpkinhead faithful) to see who takes their place.

By: Pat Coleman

Pat Coleman — Wed, 31 Oct 2007 14:47:08 +0000

I don’t think anyone controls their own at-large bid destiny. The nature of the at-large bid prevents that, aside from a Pool B team going 10-0.

By: dcfbguy1

dcfbguy1 — Wed, 31 Oct 2007 13:37:00 +0000

Gordon:

I think Res meant they control their own at-large bid destiny. After the thumping of Alfred and the great ball they are playing I guess Res is confident that Hobart may get an at-large win if they win out, which won’t be an easy task versus Union and U of R… It would have been great for the Statesmen if WPI could have pulled off the upset vs. RPI and the RPI lost to either Union or U or R. Hobart could have won out and won the automatic bid outright by being co-champs with Union and winning the head to head… The opposite of last yr when Union did it to Hobart… As shaky as RPI has been playing lately, I do not think they will lose 2 games in a row, or even one for that matter… Their playoff lives are on the line and they are not going to give it up that easily… The LL is very competitve now, with RPI, Union, U of R and Hobart ALL still in the race…

By: Gordon

Gordon — Wed, 31 Oct 2007 01:54:27 +0000

Res:

Hobart doesn’t control its own fate. RPI, who has already beaten the Statesmen, would clinch the Liberty League with two more wins. If they win those games, it doesn’t matter what Hobart does against Union and Rochester.

If you’re considering Hobart a contender for an at-large bid, that’s fine. But they are given out on a national basis, not a regional one. So the Statesmen’s relative ranking in the East isn’t a clear indicator of anything. Teams with two-loses have made the playoffs in the past, but that’s very unusual.

Bottom line — Hobart could win the Liberty League with help from RPI’s opponents. Hobart could get an at-large bid if the selection committee gives them one. But they don’t control their own fate anymore.

By: dcfbguy1

dcfbguy1 — Tue, 30 Oct 2007 19:14:40 +0000

Good point RES, I didn’t see it that way…

By: res ipsa loquitur

res ipsa loquitur — Tue, 30 Oct 2007 17:50:22 +0000

dcfb – Are you certain? Hobart was ranked 9 in the East region BEFORE the Alfred win, with Alfred #1. Above them were #8 Union (up next) and #7 Cortland (who plays Ithaca and Rowan back to back). I think that if they win out, they are no worse than 6th in the region-and probably better. They are looking like they may control their fate.