Triple-take: The quarterfinals
Nov
2007
Looking like a tough weekend weatherwise in parts of the bracket this weekend.
I, for example, am projecting missed extra points in the North and West regional finals because of weather. But those are only a point or two either direction.
In last week’s picks, Keith and I both went 8-for-8 and Gordon was 7-for-8. Gordon got his in just under the gun, in a comment post eight minutes before kickoff.
Mount Union 59, New Jersey 7. Closest pick, Gordon (Mount Union 42-7). None picked TCNJ with more than seven points.
St. John Fisher 38, Curry 7. Closest pick, Pat (SJF 31-10). All three had St. John Fisher in the 30s.
Central 37, St. John’s 7. Closest pick, Pat (barely, Central 27-24).
Bethel 21, UW-Eau Claire 12. Closest pick, Gordon (Bethel 21-17).
Mary Hardin-Baylor 64, N.C. Wesleyan 0. Closest pick, Pat (UMHB 48-21).
Wesley 38, Muhlenberg 21. Closest pick, Pat (Wesley 28-20).
UW-Whitewater 59, North Central 28. Closest pick, Pat (UWW 38-17).
Wabash 38, Case Western Reserve 23. Closest pick, Pat (Wabash 30-19).
Here’s our take on the regional finals.
South Region
Pat: Mary Hardin-Baylor 41, Wesley 27
Keith: Wesley 34, Mary Hardin-Baylor 31 (OT)
Gordon: Mary Hardin-Baylor 28 Wesley 20
West Region
Pat: Central 20, Bethel 13
Keith: Central 29, Bethel 16
Gordon: Bethel 24 Central 21 (OT)
North Region
Pat: UW-Whitewater 34, Wabash 20
Keith: UW-Whitewater 44, Wabash 21
Gordon: UW-Whitewater 30 Wabash 17
East Region
Pat: Mount Union 40, St. John Fisher 17
Keith: Mount Union 45, St. John Fisher 27
Gordon: Mount Union 35 St. John Fisher 21
November 30th, 2007 at 11:06 am
Pat your score looks the most realistic for the Mount SJF game. If Keith and Gordan are right, and SJF scores that many points, they may win. I’m thinking more along the lines of Mount 45-10.
later,
November 30th, 2007 at 11:07 am
I agree on Pat’s pics, except, of course, the UW-W–Wabash game. The mighty Little Giants to prevail in a classic: 19-16. Go Red.
November 30th, 2007 at 11:44 am
Mount 14-7 first qtr..21-7 half. mount 24-14 third. final mount 31-14. maybe 31-17…..
November 30th, 2007 at 11:50 am
I’m also here to show my support for the Little Giants. Wabash 24, UWW 21.
November 30th, 2007 at 12:21 pm
What I want the score to be SJF 24-MUC 21
What I think the score will be MUC 34-SJF 24
November 30th, 2007 at 12:23 pm
You Wabash guys here to make your homer picks (which isn’t a problem in and of itself), feel free to pick the other three games too.
November 30th, 2007 at 12:27 pm
MUC 45-SJF 24….like the original said I hope it is reversed but I can’t see SJF D keeping up for 4 quarters. Anyone know of any webcasts or anyway for an Eastern fan to watch any of the games on Sat?
November 30th, 2007 at 12:27 pm
Gordon,
What is with no belief in the Dutch 2 weeks in a row!! We blow out St Johns when you pick us to lose by three, a SJU team that lost to Bethel by 3, and now were going to lose to Bethel at home? Ouch…Well see about that Saturday at about 3:30!!
November 30th, 2007 at 12:27 pm
I mean besides driving out to alliance:)
November 30th, 2007 at 12:28 pm
Ill take MUC by 21, UWW by 17, UMHB by 3 and of course Central by 17!
GO DUTCH!!
November 30th, 2007 at 12:30 pm
Fisher will score… Look for 30, or so… However, holding MUC is the challenge… If we get a break or two, who knows… Going to be a better game than pat and Keith are picking… Talk more on Saturday afternoon (On my way to Alliance)…
November 30th, 2007 at 12:48 pm
All of you have at least 13 points between Wabash And WW. Do you think this will be like last week where the Warhawks pull away at the end or do you see a spead the entire game?
Wesley 31 MHB 24
Central 34 Bethel 21
WW 45 Wabash 21
MUC 38 SJF 31
November 30th, 2007 at 1:19 pm
My picks would be Wesley, Central, Wabash and Mount Union, although I haven’t done enough homework to predict scores on at least three of those games. Bleedpurple would argue I haven’t done enough to predict a score for Wabash-Whitewater, but I’ll go with Wabash 24, Whitewater 20. 24 hours ’til things really start heating up again!
November 30th, 2007 at 1:38 pm
Picks are————–MHB by 13
Central by 10
MUC by 13
Wabash by 1
You guys that picked Wesley————–I hope you end up eating crow after the weekend.
Rematch with UWW———-bad day for MHB the last game———-can’t do that against good teams like UWW but the rematch(if there is one) won’t be the same———-MHB over UWW by 17
November 30th, 2007 at 1:46 pm
While I am not positive on the final scores, my final four consists of
Mount Union vs Bethel
UWW vs UMHB
All four games should be fun to watch. Best of luck to everyone!
November 30th, 2007 at 2:01 pm
Just like previous years, UMHB will not get it done even though they may have the better squad
Wesley 35 UMHB 24
Mt Union will have its closest game of the year (which they should because this is the best opponent that they have met to date). It is interesting that Mt Union’s first game of next year will be against Fisher as the two will start a home and home series. Maybe this is the beginning of a rivalry.
MT Union 38 SJF 28
Central’s close calls for the year finally come to an end against a solid Bethel team
Bethel 30 Central 19
UWW will blow out Wabash in the most lopsided game of the four.
UWW 42 Wabash 20
November 30th, 2007 at 2:37 pm
Ok here is my shot
Muc 42 SJF 14
Central 24 Bethel 14
MHB 35 Wesley 27
UWW 35 Wabash 28
November 30th, 2007 at 3:25 pm
I’ll be shocked if Fisher scores 30 on Mount Union. If they have to score that much to win forget about it. If it is a close game it will be low scoring. I’ll run around Salem Stadium naked (if Mount goes) if they give up 30 points to Fisher.
November 30th, 2007 at 3:31 pm
dlippiel,
No video feeds for MUC v. SJFC, only radio feed I know of is on the internet at WHTK.com.
November 30th, 2007 at 3:38 pm
no video feeds for muc v sjf, disappointing. weather for the game expected to be good. light wind as opposed the the strong winds of last year. Obvious help to the passing games, particularly SJF, I think.
November 30th, 2007 at 3:42 pm
Ric:
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November 30th, 2007 at 3:45 pm
Ric:
(sorry about the prior post)
It sounds as if you think it would be a shock if Fisher scored 30 pts on MUC, but that another team out there could? Or do think that nobody is capable of such an incredible feat?
Ithaca did score 18 (3rd team from E8), and as I understand, had as many as 2 other drives in the red zone.
November 30th, 2007 at 3:48 pm
Pat:
Why do you think that MUC will be able to handle SJF in the same fashion as they handled Ithaca (that SJF beat on the road by 3 tds).
Note: I am not suggesting that I disagree with your prediction, nor am I suggesting that SJF has a shot in hell to win, just curious as to what your opinion may be based upon.
November 30th, 2007 at 3:50 pm
Dutchhawk, don’t worry, the way I see it, Gordan picking against the Dutch has replaced Central being behind at halftime as an omen for how the game will go. It has worked for us so far, do we really want to have him pick us to win?
The Dutch may have to go back to the “find a way” philosophy for this game, but I think they get it done.
November 30th, 2007 at 4:21 pm
Yeah,
I wouldn’t go nuts arguing with me over my score projections. I just got done writing about Fisher and Mount Union’s defense, so now I’m wondering why I projected so many points. But maybe with Stepnick out and Fisher being so balanced on offense, and the offensive coaches having seen the defenses before, the score will end up that way.
Re: Wesley-UMHB, I was torn on that one until the end. I just figure you gotta go with the streaking team until the other one proves you wrong.
Point is, I can envision these games in a lot of ways, and by choosing to do the picks, we voluntarily lock ourselves into one projected outcome, but in reality, I can personally envision any game going a number of different ways.
One factor that seemed to gain a little steam but wasn’t mentioned a lot was UWW trying to defend the Wabash spread. Neither side sounded very confident that UWW would be great at it, but there’s so much more to the Warhawks than that.
Someone asked on another thread which team in last ATN I thought would give UWW the most trouble. :sheepish grin: Capital.
Wesley also asked that I pick UMHB again as it seemed to work out for them before. Um, I hope I’m not a jinx.
Webcast, schmebcast … D3football.com is on the air from all four sites Saturday. Kick back and envision the game in your heads. I’ll try to spin some prose from Dover to help you all out
November 30th, 2007 at 4:29 pm
Wow, 8-for-8 on winners last week, 0-for-8 on closest score
*cough*Patcheats*cough*
Well if you cook it right … Texas-style?
Which reminds me:
Remember to show your visiting team hospitality before the game, especially the dudes making the rather crazy treks from Texas to Delaware or NY to eastern Ohio. Or even Indiana to SE Wisconsin.
Arden Hills to Pella, fine, you can get props too.
Be good D3 hosts tomorrow, tailgate hospitably until about 11:30 … then kick the chumps with the wrong-colored shirts off your turf
Will probably stop in tonight sometime to discuss picks if people have specific questions.
November 30th, 2007 at 4:42 pm
Ithaca scored on two drives of half the field or less and the third was 65. Taking nothing away from them. Mount made the mistake of over preparing for the run and they said as much. They got into the redzone one other time not two. I don’t know who made that up but it is not a fact.
I doubt anyone will score 30 on Mount this year unless we have a 17-17 tie after regulation and multiple overtimes. They’ve only given up 30 points twice in the last seven years and one team scored 17 4th quarter points to do it an they other had a six-year starter at QB that threw for over 10,000 yards.
Just speaking on experience, to beat Mount typically you don’t outscore them, you slow them down and control the ball. If St. John Fisher tries to outscore Mount they will not win. If they control the clock and keep the ball away from Mount they can win. In other words it would be much more likely for the Raiders to lose 24-17 than 38-31 in my opinion.
November 30th, 2007 at 6:53 pm
If the weather turns out like it’s “supposed” to then Wabash can forget about slinging the ball all over the place at Perkins Stadium tommorow, it’s supposed to be nasty. But, of course I’ll be there. It will be interesting to see if the weather does indeed affect the game.
November 30th, 2007 at 8:10 pm
MUC 31, SJF 27
UMHB 42, Wesley 30
UWW 27, Wabash 20
Central 41, Bethel 13
November 30th, 2007 at 8:36 pm
To Keith and Pat,
Do you think that Mt Union and St John’s Fisher have the makings of a rivalry given that they will play at least four years in a row.? Will SJF win any of the remaining three games? Will this be good for D3 football?
November 30th, 2007 at 8:43 pm
Pat Coleman Says:
November 30th, 2007 at 12:23 pm
You Wabash guys here to make your homer picks (which isn’t a problem in and of itself), feel free to pick the other three games too.
Fair enough Pat….
Mount Union 42 SJF 21
UMHB 35 Wesley 28
Wabash 17 UWW 14 (yes, its a homer pick)
Central 28 Bethel 17
November 30th, 2007 at 8:44 pm
i am trying not to laugh at the predictions of the points scored by umhb tomorrow. 30’s and 40’s is just not going to happen. wesley has given up 40 or more only 3 times in the last 2 seasons, twice to whitewater and once to brockport. in order for umhb to score that many, the wesley defense will have to have a total breakdown or they will have at least 3 turnovers, neither of which i think is going to happen. wesley wins this game because they are the better team, 27 - 17.
November 30th, 2007 at 8:49 pm
Mille125:
Im not Keith or Pat, but I will tell you that the Fisher guys defintley see this as a rivalry in making. The best team they have faced and will face so far for each team are eachother. depending on what happens tommorrow, rivalry may come sooner than later.
This will be good because if Fisher can manage an upset in any of the 3 games, which I think they can, than D3 looks like a more even keeled division. Whenever fisher wins a game, thats when Mt. Union becomes engaged enough to call it a rivalry.
Ric -
I agree. lower score for Fisher to win. out block and out tackle and work as a team and they can win.
I am not calling a score, because that is a superstition, but expect a close one. Whoever can capitalize on mistakes by the other team, wins.
November 30th, 2007 at 9:08 pm
# mille125 Says:
November 30th, 2007 at 2:01 pm
Central’s close calls for the year finally come to an end against a solid Bethel team
Bethel 30 Central 19
Central has beat Olivet 38-17 and then St Johns 37-7 (worst defeat since MUC beat them in 1993). I think the Dutch have made close calls a thing of the regular season.
Go Dutch!!
November 30th, 2007 at 9:12 pm
Insider information: a stomach virus has swept the Wabash team. Look for UWW to win by at least 30.
November 30th, 2007 at 9:22 pm
What are the chances lg1970 is a Central fan? LOL
November 30th, 2007 at 9:53 pm
The owner of my previous employer was a Bethel graduate who relocated to Texas. I did not get along with this individual. So I admit to a bias. Most importantly, I’m an lg fan. WABASH ALWAYS FIGHTS!
November 30th, 2007 at 10:59 pm
Mille125,
I like the thought that a rivalry could develop. I would think it possible that if Mount remains at their current level and Fisher continues to improve there is a decent chance that they meet in the regular season and the post season over the next 2 years. I agree with rachacha though that it will take a Fisher victory in one or more of the games to make it a rivalry in the eyes of the Mount players and fans. I can remember playing the UofR in the early years of the program and never beating them, we at Fisher thought it was a rivalry game, my friends that played at the UofR used to point out to me that it’s not a rivalry if we never win, funny bunch weren’t they?….luckily that has changed and hopefully over the coming games our fortunes will change with Mount Union as well. In any event kudos to both SJFC and MUC for scheduling one another in the season opener in both 08′ and 09′ and good luck to both squads tomorrow. I’m hoping for the improbable tomorrow…but expecting it to end up MUC 35 SJFC 24.
November 30th, 2007 at 11:18 pm
Here’s hoping for a SJF win.
Here’s yawning at expecting another UWW - MUC final.
November 30th, 2007 at 11:19 pm
I personally hope LK sees this thread and allows his D to give up 30 pts to SJF just so we can all see Ric run around Salem stadium naked. That would sell out a stagg bowl if anything would!!
November 30th, 2007 at 11:39 pm
Just a quick note on the possible field conditions for the Central game. Supposed to get freezing rain, and snow mix throughout the day starting early in the morning and continuing through the evening. First team to 20 wins this one. I see it being pretty low scoring and the Dutch passing attack could be a bit hampered. Central still squeaks it out: 16-14.
November 30th, 2007 at 11:46 pm
I’m on record already for Dutch and Bethel, even though the weather will be terrible the Dutch score 4 times.
Central 28 Bethel 10
It seems UMHB is better than the previous UWW game may indicate
UMHB 30 Wesley 20
Warhawks prov to be one of the elite teams, even in the ice
UWW 38 Wabash 14
I thin SJF has a strong offensive showing relatively speaking
Mt Union 40 SJF 21
November 30th, 2007 at 11:49 pm
I won’t question your homework on the UWW-Wabash game atmgr82. I have no doubt you did more homework on this game than I did or that most on this board did on most games. I also believe you have no clue as to what is in store for “Big Red” tomorrow. Tomorrow afternoon you will find out where your research got you.
UWW 31
Wabash 13
Mt. Union 52
St. John’s Fisher 17
Central 30
Bethel 21
My CaptainCru special
UMHB 24
Wesley 21
This one is for you capt. Next week UWW will teach you a “be careful what you wish for lesson!” Let’s put it this way, If the match up next week is UWW-UMHB, I will be buying my non-refundable airline tickets to Virginia THIS Saturday night to watch UWW make their 3rd consecutive appearance in the Stagg Bowl!
December 1st, 2007 at 12:23 am
I think someone was asking how to listen to the East Region game. Mount Union’s radio station (WRMU) has a live feed on the website at http://www.muc.edu/student_life/wrmu_91_1.
Happy listening…
December 1st, 2007 at 12:27 am
Is there a live feed for the Whitewater game tomorrow or just audio? The other games? Link?
December 1st, 2007 at 12:55 am
dutchhawk
everyone knows that olivet was the weakest team in the entire 32 team field and bethel has also beaten st johns….in the end it will be a long day for the dutch….
December 1st, 2007 at 12:58 am
kudos to both muc and sjf for scheduling each other for 2008 and 2009…my alma mater W&J should do the same if they want to compete again at a national and regional level instead of just at a conference level……
December 1st, 2007 at 1:13 am
Hey anyone up late or surfing Saturday morning thinking about SJF-MUC, I thought the SJF school paper did a nice job, from what I could tell. Didn’t get to read that much of it, but it was presented really well and hit from all angles.
http://media.www.cardinalcourieronline.com/media/paper1247/sections/20071114EyeOnMountUnion.html
Really wanted to highlight some other articles around the country about the remaining D3 teams … you know, for AFTER you get done with ours
December 1st, 2007 at 1:14 am
Now, wesleydad who’s not showing respect. get ready for a defensive break-down the CRU will CRU-ISE(pun intended). this is a very well balanced football TEAM and thay’re ready to take care of business. wesley doesn’t put 21 up umhb 50+…
take that to the bank….no disrespect intended(well yeah there is), GO CRU…wesleydad i expect you to give credit where do after the game tomorrow…i will be….have a great day
December 1st, 2007 at 1:18 am
I’ll try my hand at this, but I should first admit, I am in near dead last in the confidence pool at the office.
MUC wins by 21
MHB wins by 7
Central wins by 20
UWW- I won’t jinx my team.
December 1st, 2007 at 1:20 am
Yes, MUC and SJF is going to be a pretty good inter-region rivalry. Rivalries are better when the games are in doubt, so as long as the series doesn’t get lopsided, it should be good, and perhaps they’ll renew again after ‘09.
Hard to say whether SJF will win one not knowing how either team will be made up the next two years, but I would not put it past them.
Strong non-conference matchups are definitely good for D3, especially between perennial top 25 teams. UWW-UMHB has been good, and so have a lot of the Texas and Wisconsin teams scheduling West Coast teams. The MAC schedule opened up a lot of schedules in the mid-Atlantic this year too, and that really helped teams get good competition early and helped us all gauge teams, which we need since we can’t catch the game on TV, generally.
December 1st, 2007 at 3:05 am
rickc42, i dont know where i am showing disrespect to umhb by stating facts about wesley’s defense over the last 2 years. if by chance umhb puts up 50+ i will be glad to give credit, but i dont see that happening. as usual, an overzealous fan makes outlandish predictions about their teams chances and expects others to just let them go without challenge. enjoy the game, i dont expect you will return here and give credit to wesley if they win.
December 1st, 2007 at 6:08 am
rickc42, by the way, if you call 408 rushing and 181 passing a very well balanced team, i find it hard to take your comments seriously.
December 1st, 2007 at 7:49 am
WarhawkTrumpet:
NCAASports and D3football.com will have live audio for all four regional finals. You can access them by clicking here or by visiting http://www.d3football.com/audio.php.
And we’ve just learned that NCAASports and D3football.com will team up to provide streaming video of next week’s national semis.
December 1st, 2007 at 8:35 am
Picks for today:
UMHB 27 - Wesley 24 (OT)
Central 24 - Bethel 14 (Could see Central 6 - Bethel 0 if it is icy)
UWW 28 - Wabash 17
Mount 42 - SJF 21
December 1st, 2007 at 9:26 am
All of Central Iowa has been converted to a skating rink in the last hour or so. I can’t imagine the field is avoiding a covering of ice. Does anyone know the NCAA position on postponement in case of unplayable conditions? If we believe the weatherwomen, it wil get to 36 degrees later in the afternoon and just be rain, maybe we could sit it out for a couple hours and play under the lights??
December 1st, 2007 at 9:29 am
Re: SJFC-MUC
The Rochester Democrat and Chronicle ran a nice (brief) article in Saturday’s edition. Nice to see coverage of Fisher athletics above the fold on the first page of the sports section — a rarity in a region with lots of pro and collegiate athletics going on.
National Weather Service calls for cold but clear during the day in Alliance, a bad omen for Fisher IMHO. I was hoping for sleet and ice, something to force both teams to the ground. Fisher’s best shot at a win is a grind it out, ball control game on both sides of the ball, with under 40 points total scoring.
December 1st, 2007 at 9:56 am
Thanks Gordon!
December 1st, 2007 at 10:39 am
The weather won’t be a factor unless the 26 degrees effects someones ball handling. Right now I don’t see any wind worth mentioning.
Now sometime after six when Saint Johns Fisher’s players and fans are heading back and wondering what happened the weather is predicted to be sleet and snow and it’s great fun going through Pennsylvanian in the winter. My advice on traveling, stay over for the night.
Mount will run and run, make a few changes and before you know the score will be 49-10 Mount.
I still say that this is the best football team that I’ve ever seen at Mount and I’ve been watching them forever.
December 1st, 2007 at 10:52 am
dlippiel: “Anyone know of any webcasts or anyway for an Eastern fan to watch any of the games on Sat?”
I know you’re probably looking for SJF/MUC, but I figured I’d throw this one out anyway. If you want to check out the audio/live stats of the UWW/Wabash game, just cruise over to the UWW Athletics website and check out the streaming radio broadcast. No video for the playoffs, but I’ve always found the radio broadcast to be pretty good.
http://www.uwwsports.com/sports/gen/2007/followthewarhawks_09202007.asp
Headin’ out to Perkins Stadium in a few minutes. Weather looks like it’ll be good to start, but then quickly deteriorate throughout the afternoon. Good luck to everyone. Have a good game and we’ll see you next week in the National Semis!
December 1st, 2007 at 11:56 am
my predictions:
MUC 49-10 (going with LK’s record in rematch games)
Bethel 21-14 (I will take a strong running game and good defense in bad weather)
UWW 49-14 (Unfortunately the facts point to a big day for the warhawks on the ground–I hope I’m wrong here)
UMHB 44-24 (the Cru is on a mission for a rematch near Janesville)
December 1st, 2007 at 12:07 pm
7-0 Mount Union. Very crisp first drive of the game. The pass and run were equally effective.
December 1st, 2007 at 12:15 pm
Mount up 14-0 with 100 minutes to go in the 1st.
December 1st, 2007 at 12:16 pm
SJF got a big play then was shut down and missed a field goal.
Kmic had a 58 yard run then scored on a 2 yard run. 14-0 MUC very early in the game.
December 1st, 2007 at 12:19 pm
kmic with 95 yards rushing already. so much for SJF not giving up a 100-yard game this year.
December 1st, 2007 at 12:25 pm
Mount moving the ball at will, getting ready to score again.
December 1st, 2007 at 12:27 pm
kmic over 100. micheli also running wild. other than one big play, SJF has had no offense.
December 1st, 2007 at 12:27 pm
screen play to garcon. 21-0 mount.
December 1st, 2007 at 12:28 pm
21-0 MUC first quarter. I think it’s safe to say that they might be better than last year. They are shredding the SJF defense.
December 1st, 2007 at 12:29 pm
mount up 21-0 with 3:36 left in the 1ST QUARTER!!!. Looks like SJF fan won’t be talking to us today.
December 1st, 2007 at 12:38 pm
sjf driving. first and goal at the 7.
December 1st, 2007 at 12:38 pm
SJF moving it via the play action pass. Trying to make a game of it. 1st and goal SJF from the 7. Problem is, their defense has to take the field if they score.
December 1st, 2007 at 12:40 pm
mount holds. now 4th and goal for SJF at the end of the first quarter
December 1st, 2007 at 12:42 pm
mount blocks the 33-yard FG attempt.
December 1st, 2007 at 12:42 pm
anybody have a score on the other game being played now.
December 1st, 2007 at 12:43 pm
Mount blocks 33yd field goal attempt.
December 1st, 2007 at 12:45 pm
SJF holds mount on a 3 and out, gets punt at its own 39
December 1st, 2007 at 12:45 pm
7-3 mary hardin.
December 1st, 2007 at 12:46 pm
SJF moving the ball again. this QB, kramer, is pretty good.
December 1st, 2007 at 12:51 pm
another stupid penalty for mount keep SJF’s latest drive alive. this is the one thing that bothers me about this team - it gets penalized A LOT
December 1st, 2007 at 12:51 pm
10-3 mary hardin midway in 2nd quarter.
December 1st, 2007 at 12:57 pm
it seems like SJF coaching staff is confused about what they want to do. not getting plays in on time, not having a play for 4th down. thats why Kehres is the best.
December 1st, 2007 at 12:58 pm
wesley 63 yard touchdown pass called back on illegal man down field on wesley. 4 and 1 wesley did not make it 4 minutes and change in the 2nd quarter
December 1st, 2007 at 1:02 pm
wesley putting together a late 2nd quarter drive to try and tie the game
December 1st, 2007 at 1:06 pm
10-3 UMBH at Halftime
December 1st, 2007 at 1:07 pm
mount holds again. SJF getting some field position and moving into mount territory but unable to convert big plays.
December 1st, 2007 at 1:08 pm
central game delayed by storm.
December 1st, 2007 at 1:08 pm
Yeah that late second quarter drive for Wesley ended when three straight runs at midfield after a nine yard gain on first down yielded the big zip. A real defensive struggle today in Dover!
December 1st, 2007 at 1:11 pm
Starting QB for Wabash…. Huff
December 1st, 2007 at 1:12 pm
St. John fisher getting 3 straight stops against Mount Union but can’t score 21-0 MUC
December 1st, 2007 at 1:15 pm
SJF defense showed up late and now is stopping the MUC offense. We’ll see if the trend continues in the second half.
December 1st, 2007 at 1:18 pm
UWW interception on the first few plays of the game leads to a Justin Beaver touchdown. 7-0 Hawks early.
December 1st, 2007 at 1:18 pm
Wow, Mount took the opening kickoff and drove my Cardinals right out to the woodshed….
December 1st, 2007 at 1:20 pm
will delay hurt central or bethel
December 1st, 2007 at 1:28 pm
Snow is falling and the Hawks are driving in the Perk!
December 1st, 2007 at 1:30 pm
Touchdown UWW!!!!! 14-0 lead. Sounds like the Hawks are fired up in this weather.
December 1st, 2007 at 1:37 pm
83 yard run by thrasher down to the wesley 3 yard line
December 1st, 2007 at 1:37 pm
Touchdown UMBH 17-3
December 1st, 2007 at 1:38 pm
Touchdown UWW!!! 21-0 Hawks.
December 1st, 2007 at 1:39 pm
It’s UMHB, fanatic. Thanks.
December 1st, 2007 at 1:39 pm
If MHB is looking forward to their rematch in WI, they better dress warm and enjoy playing in the cold/snow as much as UWW.
December 1st, 2007 at 1:40 pm
wesley fumbles kickoff and UMBH recovers in wesley territory
December 1st, 2007 at 1:40 pm
Cru gets fumble recovery from kick-off
December 1st, 2007 at 1:43 pm
UWW just got their third pick of the game. Still plenty of time left…in the first quarter.
December 1st, 2007 at 1:43 pm
34 yd TD run by Kmic on Mount’s first possession of the second half.
28-0 MUC
December 1st, 2007 at 1:43 pm
kmic goes 34yds to put MUC up 28-0.
December 1st, 2007 at 1:44 pm
Touchdown UWW first play after the pick. 28-0 Hawks.
December 1st, 2007 at 1:44 pm
Mount touchdown goes up 28-0
December 1st, 2007 at 1:46 pm
wesley’s defense holds after fumbled kickoff forces punt from UMBH
December 1st, 2007 at 1:49 pm
Dallas, the last time MHB played in the snow, they won at Mount Union. You know what they say about counting chickens
December 1st, 2007 at 1:50 pm
Mount’s done playing around, just stopped SJF on 4th and inches going in for anotherscore.
December 1st, 2007 at 1:52 pm
kmic now over 160, and micheli with almost 70 yards
December 1st, 2007 at 1:53 pm
Well, being that I saw what we did to MHB earlier THIS year in NICE weather, I like our chances in cold snowy weather.
Let us focus on the current year.
December 1st, 2007 at 1:53 pm
touchdown UNBH 24-3
December 1st, 2007 at 1:54 pm
mount FG, 31-0, 8 to play in the 3rd
December 1st, 2007 at 1:54 pm
TD Quincy Daniels UMHB, 24-3, 3:50 3Q.
December 1st, 2007 at 1:54 pm
FG MUC 31-0
December 1st, 2007 at 1:55 pm
that game against mount was what like 3 years ago things have changed since then and they didn’t beat UW-W in nice weather
December 1st, 2007 at 1:55 pm
31-0 MUC.
Playing a pretty complete game today except for a few play action passes that caught them peaking into the backfield.
December 1st, 2007 at 1:55 pm
28-0 UWW end of the first quarter. UWW driving again.
December 1st, 2007 at 1:56 pm
Y’all keep thinking that. UW-W is gonna be a solid favorite but I doubt UMHB will turn the ball over three of the first five possessions again.
December 1st, 2007 at 1:57 pm
It is 40 degrees windy and cold in Dover! Wind chill 32, Wind is 15 MPH NNW.
Perhaps this is conditioning for UMHB.
December 1st, 2007 at 1:57 pm
turnover wesley UMBH football
December 1st, 2007 at 1:59 pm
UMHB has recovered a fumble, 4th of the day! 1 & 10 on the Wesley 43.
Jackson fumbled, broke thru the line, put a move on a defender, then tried to put another move on another defender and the ball popped out!
December 1st, 2007 at 2:02 pm
Sounds like UWW and MHB already want a piece or each other
…if things hold up, they’ll get their wish…good luck to both…gotta love power matchups like that with so much on the line
For the record - SJF really hasnt played a bad game…good 2nd qtr for them…Mount D’s bends but just doesnt break…the SJF D not really able to contain Kmic and the Mount O though…
okay im gone again…:)
December 1st, 2007 at 2:02 pm
game may not be over Touchdown wesley schatz to lanouette 24-10
December 1st, 2007 at 2:09 pm
MUCnash,
Thanks for the kind words….we may not be playing a bad game but it is certain that we are no where near where we need to be to compete for a national title. This has been a difficult game to listen to, I had hoped for a better showing. Best of luck to your boys going forward.
December 1st, 2007 at 2:09 pm
Wesleydad and Mille125————start eating the crow——woohoo—–3 points is all you can muster———-getting steam rolled. Well, it took 3 times—–I give Wesley the credit where it’s due—-ya’ll came to our house and put it to us 2 yrs ago but now it’s time to return the favor. Good luck next year and you Whitewater fans——–Beaver is in for a late Thanksgiving “stuffing” WOOHOO—-go CRU——that’s for you BLEEDPURPLE———–Wesley dad, I see you guys are trying to make a game of it and just scored—24-10 UMHB————may not get the 50+ as someone suggested but UMHB will win——sorry!
December 1st, 2007 at 2:09 pm
MUC 38 -0
December 1st, 2007 at 2:12 pm
CaptainCru, strong words. I guess you feel fairly confident right now.
December 1st, 2007 at 2:14 pm
you bet I do———UHMB will score again before the game is over
December 1st, 2007 at 2:15 pm
I’m talking about the Beaver and UWW comments.
December 1st, 2007 at 2:17 pm
that too! if I am wrong then I’ll eat the crow too!
December 1st, 2007 at 2:19 pm
Fair enough. I’m just not one to believe that the kid that got beat up BAD on the playground should keep running his mouth.
:)
December 1st, 2007 at 2:20 pm
SJF gets a FG, 38-3
December 1st, 2007 at 2:23 pm
Whatever—UWW got lucky—–UMHB had 5 or 6 turnovers in that game——-different stoy next go round-CRU is going to be eating BEAVER stew next weekend and if not, like I said, then I’ll give credit where it’s due and I’ll eat the crow—–until then, enough trash talking–the game hasn’t even been played yet—I don’t want to have to eat crow too early
December 1st, 2007 at 2:27 pm
if i remember a certain D-1 football (Florida St) was going to pound Tim Tebow and what happened in that game Tebow embarassed Florida St. could we see a repeat with Beaver running all over UMBH well have to see so captaincru don’t talk to soon
December 1st, 2007 at 2:27 pm
TD MUC…..45-3
December 1st, 2007 at 2:28 pm
I just find it hard to believe that UWW got lucky. They’ve had that many turnovers every game since MHB. That’s a lot of luck. I’m done with this conversation.
I look forward to the rematch if it happens and hope everyone from Texas (where I live) has safe travels.
P.S. UWW just scored again. 35-0 UWW. 33 seconds left in the half. Wabash has 71 total yards…..47 of those coming on one long pass.
December 1st, 2007 at 2:30 pm
SJF should have tried to go for it. All they did was make Mount mad, I see another score to get the score in the 50’s.
December 1st, 2007 at 2:38 pm
Mount’s second team drives the field. 52-3. Keith may have to arbitrate this, but i believe we are getting very close to a “Double Monkey Stomp”
December 1st, 2007 at 2:41 pm
No need to arbitrate, you’re there mainjack……..
December 1st, 2007 at 2:41 pm
The Liberty League glossary defines a “monkey stomp” as a unit of 21 points.
This is qualifying as a double monkey stomp!
December 1st, 2007 at 2:42 pm
Bethal scores on their first drive of the game. 7-0 midway through the first quarter.
December 1st, 2007 at 2:44 pm
sorry, bethal misses the PAT, 6-0 Bethal.
December 1st, 2007 at 2:46 pm
SJF scores on a long bomb, then the receiver goes over to the band and starts playing the drums……. 52-10.
December 1st, 2007 at 2:46 pm
SJF finally gets in the end zone. 52-10.
December 1st, 2007 at 2:47 pm
Jackson just scored a TD and found the need to go beat Mount’s Kettle Drum…we’re losing 52-10…what the @#%*. Between that and the rantings of SJFfan I’m embarrassed to be a Fisher Fan right now.
December 1st, 2007 at 2:49 pm
Okay SJF fans - someone explain the banging the drum in the end zone after the TD…i mean c’mon…seriously….i doubt Kehres will call off the dogs now…sounds like the whole MUC team was jawing at them afterwards…
December 1st, 2007 at 2:49 pm
Wow. I thought Fisher would show up and play MUC a tighter today. Union is looking really good. Looks like UMHB will have another opportunity to get the UWW monkey off the back. Hopefully it will be a turnover free game for both sides….should be a good show.
December 1st, 2007 at 2:49 pm
The Cru is on a roll. Need I remind you that the year they made the Stagg Bowl run they were crushed by Hardin-Simmons at home. We went there in the second round and showed them how we play in the play-offs.
December 1st, 2007 at 2:50 pm
Bethel goes for it on fourth and inches from their own 25 and gets stuffed. Central will take over and try to put some points on the board.
December 1st, 2007 at 2:51 pm
MUCnash,
There is no explaining it….period! It was total bush-league.
December 1st, 2007 at 2:54 pm
SJFC1993
I have been listening to the Fisher broadcast team. Robinson is very classy. I have totally enjoyed his comments. he sounds like a great guy.
December 1st, 2007 at 2:54 pm
RB pass for Central works and Schuring hits Josh Smith for the 12 yard scoring strike. PAT is good and the weather not really playing a factor right now as game plans havent changed much. Central leads 7-6 with 5 to go in the 1st.
December 1st, 2007 at 2:55 pm
but funny.
December 1st, 2007 at 2:58 pm
Maybe the kid was wishing he was playing in the MUC Band rather than enduring this drubbing……he might be looking to transfer and join the band at MUC before opening day next year.
December 1st, 2007 at 3:03 pm
Announcers said he sounded pretty good!!!!!!
December 1st, 2007 at 3:04 pm
TOP-
Bethel 12:30
Central 3:00
Bethel had the ball at the Central 6, then proceeds to fumble the ball away. Central holds on and takes over from their own 7.
December 1st, 2007 at 3:13 pm
Bethel TD on QB draw. 13-7.
December 1st, 2007 at 3:13 pm
SJFC 1993 -
Take it easy. There is a lot of pressure that comes with players that make it to the playoffs - it was poor judgement, no need to dump on a kid that shows a little color.
December 1st, 2007 at 3:18 pm
Well have any of you experts figured out the Raiders yet. I live in Alliance and I haven’t figured them out. They say keep the ball away from them, yea that sounds great. How about beating on a drum when you find yourself scoring your teams only touchdown in the fourth quarter, was that part of the game play.
Bring them on, Mount Union is ready.
Like I said before, ” this is the best Mount team that I’ve ever seen.
December 1st, 2007 at 3:43 pm
Hats off to Mount, I really thought this was going to be a closer game. Once again MUC does all their talking on the field. Well done and congrats to a dedicated group of hardworking kids all across D3Football!
December 1st, 2007 at 3:45 pm
SJFC1993
I have been listening to the Fisher broadcast team. Robinson is very classy. I have totally enjoyed his comments. he sounds like a great guy.
December 1st, 2007 at 3:52 pm
CaptainCru-
You don’t want to eat crow too early? I’m pretty sure UWW’s drubbing of MHB earlier in the season was enough to suffice. I get your point about the turnovers, but to say that UWW was “lucky” is completely garbage. Those turnovers were forced by the defense and were no fluke. UWW’s 3rd in turnover margin nationally, so get used to it. I’m not saying it’s going to happen again next weekend, but you Texas boys better get ready for the weather. It will be nice and cold and snowy for your boys!
The re-match will sure be fun to watch. D3 fans should be happy to see such a great semi-final match-up.
December 1st, 2007 at 4:01 pm
# dras Says:
December 1st, 2007 at 3:18 pm
Well have any of you experts figured out the Raiders yet. I live in Alliance and I haven’t figured them out. They say keep the ball away from them, yea that sounds great. How about beating on a drum when you find yourself scoring your teams only touchdown in the fourth quarter, was that part of the game play.
Bring them on, Mount Union is ready.
Like I said before, ” this is the best Mount team that I’ve ever seen.
I agree with you dras, This is the best MUC team I think I’ve ever seen.
December 1st, 2007 at 4:06 pm
Remember that UWW-UMHB should be on the video feed next week, too!
December 1st, 2007 at 4:21 pm
SJF,
Hey, if your out there anywhere we would love to here from you! Like I told you earlier in the week, Mount has seen you before and this time it would be a whoopin. I think I predicted 49-14. Hows it feel to know your going to start the next two seasons 0-1. You now have something in common with the rest of the OAC teams.
The mighty east was suppose to be a test and the best game we get is from the 3rd place team in the E8. The average score was 51-11 not much different than what Mount did in the regular season. Maybe there is a buyout clause in the contract so your team does’t have to go thru this two more years.
How about that liitle stunt your receiver pulled at the end of the game. I was going to put that all on him but when I saw the rest of the team congratulating him I could see he was not the only classless guy on the team. If I was the coach I would make him walk home. He embarassed not only himself, but his coach, the university, and the people who made the drive there to watch that debacle. The coach didn’t deserve that to happen to him, he seems to be a pretty good guy.
December 1st, 2007 at 4:24 pm
Congrats to UWW on a fantastic game. I’m a Wabash grad and love what Coach Creighton has done with our program. Last week, it seemed like we were a step above Case Western, but this week the tables definitely turned. Wow. We are a good team and had a great year. UWW is just playing at another level. I hope they win it all.
December 1st, 2007 at 4:26 pm
The newest member of the Mt. Union band (a senior transfer from St.John Fisher) , has done a nice job of throwing gasoline on a fire for the rematch in Mt. Union next year. Nice score against the 2nd team defense.
Explain to me when you are clearly out of a game with 10 minutes left in the fourth quarter, you don’t bring in your starting quarterback for next year. Is it to avoid being lumped in with the “OAC Patsies”?
December 1st, 2007 at 4:34 pm
Just wanted to add that if that receiver had one tenth the talent playing football as he does the drums he wouldn’t be in D3 and his team may have showed more.
December 1st, 2007 at 4:42 pm
If you watched him play he did have talent-just no class
December 1st, 2007 at 4:57 pm
As expected, SJF wasn’t nearly as close to MUC as they thought they were. Are you ready to accept that LK didn’t WANT to pass last year?
December 1st, 2007 at 5:02 pm
USee Says:
December 1st, 2007 at 11:56 am
“my predictions:
MUC 49-10 (going with LK’s record in rematch games)
Bethel 21-14 (I will take a strong running game and good defense in bad weather)
UWW 49-14 (Unfortunately the facts point to a big day for the warhawks on the ground–I hope I’m wrong here)
UMHB 44-24 (the Cru is on a mission for a rematch near Janesville)”
yikes. I am scaring myself with these score predictions.
congrats to MUC, UWW and MHB for moving on. looks like Bethel has played their way to the Purple Altar.
December 1st, 2007 at 5:26 pm
captaincru:
congratulations for finally getting over the wesley hump. should be an interesting rematch game against UWW. however ultimately the cru is doomed….one dimensional offenses do not have a chance once you get to the national semifinals level of competition……in game one UMHB knew that they were outmatched running the football which is why they came out throwing more passes in one half than they usually throw in 5 games….i expect that they will play to their strength this time and try to run the ball…………..good luck with that…..
December 1st, 2007 at 5:31 pm
Usee,
You are on a roll man…you better head to Vegas
December 1st, 2007 at 5:46 pm
The really good news from today is: we don’t have to see Ric running naked around Salem Stadium in two weeks!!!
December 1st, 2007 at 6:08 pm
It seems to me that there is D-3 and then there is MUC. Wow, what a dynasty! Hats off to MUC.
December 1st, 2007 at 6:13 pm
“”There is no reason anyone would want a computer in their home.”
–Ken Olson, president, chairman and founder of Digital Equipment Corp., 1977
“Whitewater fans——–Beaver is in for a late Thanksgiving “stuffing” WOOHOO—-go CRU——that’s for you BLEEDPURPLE——”
–Captain Cru, d3football.com legend in his own mind.
Two equally accurate and well thought out predictions.
UMHB has the same chance SJF had against Mount this week. Good Luck Capt!
December 1st, 2007 at 6:26 pm
mainjack-i’ll stick with this blog. just don’t go check the pickems from this season or you will know the truth.
December 1st, 2007 at 6:36 pm
bleedpurple -
Great post! Being a UWW alum I always try to be careful with my posts about UWW so I don’t sound like I’m simply a bandwagon jumper. However, Captain Cru jumped off the deep end with that post. Granted, the regular season is behind us, but there was no indication from the previous game against these two teams or the first 3 rounds of the playoffs that the re-match is going to be domintated one way or the other. It’s just good to see that not everyone on this post just talks trash and there’s actually some rational thought by some posters.
December 1st, 2007 at 6:43 pm
And the world waits patiently for SJF Fan to “Man Up”. A little quiet out there.
Just for the record, I saved these little ditties for this special occasion:
• SJF Fan Says:
November 27th, 2007 at 9:24 am
Now on to what will prove to be the biggest surprise of the weekend game: SJFC at MUC
Saw a replay of the IC game. They moved the ball on MUC all game. Three scoring drives, plus to drives that ended with INT’s in the endzone. IC was the third place team in the E8. . . Translation: Fisher will move the ball and put points up on this team to level that most of you here refuse to think is possible - - -
• SJF Fan Says:
November 27th, 2007 at 10:09 am
did I see TCNJ no - I don’t know if they replay it on their web or not - don’t really care though, they weren’t an E8 team.
SJF’s O-Line is a lot better than it was last year, and are way, way better than IC’s. Even after losing one of the best backs in D3 last year, as a team, are avg. more points than last year per game. MUC’s D-Line should be ready (I’m sure they will be) for their longest afternoon in a couple of years.
Great stuff, I’m sure the Mount D-Line is just waxed right now. I think the final stat that I saw was 1 for 13……SJF on third down conversions.
December 1st, 2007 at 6:47 pm
UWWalum05——-did you happen to catch the stats of the UWW–UMHB game—————take away the turnovers UMHB had and it’s a different ballgame—27–14—-don’t think there were too many times that UWW stopped the UMHB offense————sure, you are going to say—-defense causes turnovers—others could argue just like you would if Beaver had 4 or 5 fumbles in a game that he just didn’t take care of the ball——UMHB didn’t take care of the ball————I didn’t see UWW racking up the numbers in that game——Beaver had 77 yds on like 30 carries——–sure he has like 1700 or 1800 yds rushing——–Thrasher is about 200 yds behind him on only half the carries and twice as many touchdowns———–never said UWW wasn’t a good team—-I give them credit where it’s due———–just don’t think it will be the same result next weekend———UMHB 27–UWW 21—if not, LIKE I SAID, I will eat the crow—-if not—YOU CAN—–keep in mind too———-UWW is 0-2 against the MUC———-UMHB is 1-0 against them at their place as well———-2 games against ya’ll and no wins—same with Wesley—-third time was the charm———we’ll see if they can continue that next weekend.
December 1st, 2007 at 6:49 pm
bleedpurple
that is an above average post. Captain Cru is a baseless fool. I left you a post over on the banter page… it might explain some of my sentiments for Wisconsin. And I wouldn’t pay attention to the second part, unless you enjoy the fiction section
December 1st, 2007 at 6:51 pm
BLEEDPURPLE,
having the same chance that SJF had at the MUC———that’s what Wesley people were saying this week about UMHB——–good thoughts. What kind of day did Beaver have aginst UMHB during the season——a lot better than what he is going to have next weekend. Eat the CROW!
December 1st, 2007 at 7:02 pm
Capt. I have to hand it to you. Part of this post actually makes a reasonable amount of sense. I have no problem with your thought that the turnovers increased the margin of victory. If you are a good team and force turnovers, it will naturally increase margin of victory.
I like the fact that you are picking UMHB by 6 over UWW when yesterday you picked them by 17. Heck, at this rate you will be picking Whitewater by 27 by gametime! Perhaps you could put a score to it….say 41-14????
December 1st, 2007 at 7:04 pm
With all the winning that MUC does, you’d figure that they’d have some class along the way instead of shoving it in the faces of SJF fans and players.
December 1st, 2007 at 7:06 pm
Capt! You snuck in an extra quote! The previous quote actually made a bit of sense. Your last one? Not so much.
You are telling me to EAT THE CROW pointing back to a game in which your team lost 41-14? You are a classic. Please tell me you won’t stop posting after “Mary” gets blasted again Saturday!
December 1st, 2007 at 7:08 pm
Bigwheels77,
That post was hilarious! I guess “TPerk’s” field clearing skills weren’t needed at the end of today’s game!
December 1st, 2007 at 7:27 pm
Okay, so I agree that MHB had the better offensive stats in the previous game. However, that’s going to happen when a team creates 5 turnovers and takes 2 of them back for touchdowns. I agree that next week’s game is going to be completely different. It’s always harder to beat a team for the second time around. However, as bleedpurlple points at above, you can’t even stick with a consistent score prediction. I’m sure MHB is going to be out to stop the run, but check out UWW’s stats from this week’s game. I’m pretty sure they have a 2 dimensional offense w/ Danny Jones at QB.
December 1st, 2007 at 7:28 pm
I must have missed something in the last month and a half. Did UMHB get a new QB and WR’s? The last time you guys came up here you were yelling about how great your running back duo was and we shut you down. The run defense created the need for you to pass and unless I have missed something you still don’t have the fire power to win by passing. I am sick and tired of hearing about the mistakes that other teams make. IT IS NOT A FLUKE THAT THE D CREATED 5 OR MORE TURNOVERS EVERY GAME OF THE PLAYOFFS SO FAR! Come to the perk, run the ball and see what you can do but I don’t see this one playing out much different.
December 1st, 2007 at 7:32 pm
captaincru–you’re a joke. Step up and admit you were outplayed earlier this year. Wow!! It’s just hilarious to sit hear and listen to what you post. Good luck next week.
December 1st, 2007 at 7:36 pm
I will make a prediction… UMHB won’t be able to cut the mustard. They will be forced out of their game and will turn the ball over like the first meeting. UWW by 17…. UWW 30 UMHB 13. Early field goals and one big play in the third quarter. Beaver runs for 193 on 19 carries. He hits the showers in the middle of the fourth quarter, not because he is hurt… but because he wants to get a jump on the party and the line of fine women that will be waiting for a lock of his hair.
December 1st, 2007 at 7:38 pm
Capt…..I’m glad you pointed out the stats from the last UWW/MHB matchup when discussing turnovers. Did you happen to catch the game between your team and Wesley today? What are your thoughts regarding the stats/turnovers from that game? Interesting…it seems as though MHB had 363 total yards compared to Wesley’s 357. What do you think the outcome of that game would have been if you take away the FIVE turnovers MHB created? According to your analysis, it appears Wesley is the better team.
Dude, I don’t know who you are, but your stats/turnover argument was a layup for the rest of us on this topic. Thank you. I think you should take some of your thoughts to the WIAC/ASC boards….you would get eaten up.
December 1st, 2007 at 7:50 pm
captaincru again you have to bring up what happened in the past and last time i checked the past has no outcome on the future so the last UW-Whitewater game has no effect on the game coming up unless it gets into the heads of the UMBH players than and only than will the past have an effect on the game next saturday
December 1st, 2007 at 8:02 pm
captcru, i was more than ready to give credit where credit was due if umhb had actually done what you said they did. where you at the game? obviously not, very few, if any people who saw the game believe that umhb steam rolled anyone. if you are going to whine about the turnovers against uww as the reason you lost, then you have to accept the only reason umhb won today was because of the turnovers by wesley. as i had stated in my post prior to this contest, that if wesley turned the ball over they would lose and that is what happened today. one thing i learned from being at the game today is that either umhb is overhyped or that wesley is under respected. 5 turnovers and all umhb got was 27. 2 big runs and 2 key pass completions was all they really mustered all day. wesley was able to run the ball, 100 + yards and throw the ball, not sure about some of the play calls, but that is for another discussion on another day. imho, if that is all umhb is going to bring to the game with uww, they have no chance. wesley’s defense played a great game today no matter what the stats say, i have not seen them yet. you can chirp all you want, but be realistic in your opinion about next weeks game with uww.
December 1st, 2007 at 8:09 pm
MUC Fans-
Congratulations on the resounding victory today. You have an awsome team due all the praise and respect that there is to offer.
I realize that some of you are anxious to tear into a few of the SJFC posters (one poster in particular) and you have every right to do so. I would just ask you to keep in mind that the players and coaches weren’t the ones doing the posting so please try your best to keep them out of the fray. What our WR did was disrespectful and uncalled for, to interpret the other players congratulating him after the touchdown as their approval for his actions is a bit speculative. Making a broad inference that there are a bunch of classless kids on the team is just plain wrong. Coach Vos being worried about being considered an “OAC Patsy” and thus keeping his senior QB in until the final whistle is absurd. The venom you have for a certain poster is completely justified, refering to the kids/coaches on the SJFC team in order to express that venom isn’t.
December 1st, 2007 at 8:44 pm
Yes SJF Fan as I said before good luck making statements that will surely come back to bite you. I am a dedicated Fisher fan, I suspected this game would get out of hand but I made the drive down anyway to cheer the team on. Fisher did put up a lot of yards on Mount Union (358 or so, could be off on that)…really just couldn’t capitalize when it counted most. The score could have been closer but the game was never in doubt.
Oh and Jackson doing what he did wasn’t cool but I guarantee you Vos isn’t having any of that. That’s a scar on the face of our program.
Back to back Mount Union games for Fisher? Sheesh…
December 1st, 2007 at 8:55 pm
CaptainCru———enough with the eat the crow statements———–you’ve used up your lifetime allotment of using that expression all in one day..plus, at this rate, you’re going to be on a nothing but crow diet for the next two years. You’re a complete opposite of the intelligent UMHB fans I know. How ’bout coming over to the WIAC board to share your brand of wisdom? BTW, the promotion board has met and has demoted you to Private and confinement at Leavenworth!!
December 1st, 2007 at 9:11 pm
Kudos to Jackson for having fun on the last reception of his career. Let’s remember no matter how much passion you feel…this is still a game and is meant to be fun. Congrats to the Mount Union coaching staff as you clearly outcoached the Fisher staff. Fisher made no adjustments that made any sense. They continually brought pressure off the edges and left the middle of the field wide open for the Raiders quarterback to step up and many times take off running. Offensively Fisher was trailing 21-0 at the half but had some success throwing the ball…however they start the second half running the ball against the best run defense in the nation. Good luck to Mount Union the rest of the way.
December 1st, 2007 at 10:17 pm
Mainjack-
The coaches always spoke highly of Robinson. For as good of a back as he was he always seemed to carry himself with a great deal of humility. Glad he came across that way on the broadcast.
December 1st, 2007 at 10:44 pm
looking very much like a rematch in salem - mount vs. whitewater
December 1st, 2007 at 10:45 pm
I am putting out an official SOS for SJF Fan for I am truly concerned with his health and well being after the “double monkey stomping”. I’m checking all of the bridges, rivers and emergency rooms in Rochester!! SJF Fan……..please wait until at least August to tell us how SJF will be beating the Mount next season. That could have been even worse then the final score!! SJF Fan……KNEEL AT THE FOOT OF ZOD (MOUNT UNION) AND REPENT!!!
And, this little dittie goes out to Jackson……The Little Drummer Boy…..Enjoy:
Come they told me, pa rum pum pum pum
A new born King to see, pa rum pum pum pum
Our finest gifts we bring, pa rum pum pum pum
To lay before the King, pa rum pum pum pum,
rum pum pum pum, rum pum pum pum,
So to honor Him, pa rum pum pum pum,
When we come.
Little Baby, pa rum pum pum pum
I am a poor boy too, pa rum pum pum pum
I have no gift to bring, pa rum pum pum pum
That’s fit to give the King, pa rum pum pum pum,
rum pum pum pum, rum pum pum pum,
Shall I play for you, pa rum pum pum pum,
On my drum?
Mary nodded, pa rum pum pum pum
The ox and lamb kept time, pa rum pum pum pum
I played my drum for Him, pa rum pum pum pum
I played my best for Him, pa rum pum pum pum,
rum pum pum pum, rum pum pum pum,
Then He smiled at me, pa rum pum pum pum
Me and my drum.
That little exhibition will cost SJF dearly in next year’s game in Alliance. Dr. Bain is going to make you write The Fisher Creed one thousand times!!!!
December 1st, 2007 at 11:07 pm
I’m not going to pile on SJF Fan - just re-state my comment - We’ll see where SJF would have placed within the OAC or the “Purple Patsies Conference”. I predicted number 3 or 4…
I’ll hold to that prediction.
December 1st, 2007 at 11:22 pm
I for one thing that this will be motivation for SJF. They will have the entire offseason to think about this game knowing that their first game of the season will be Mt Union again. I think that it will provide motivation for the players and will make next years game much more competitive.
as for captain cru……mary doesnt have a chance next week…..a one dimensional running team play directly into UWW’s strength….mary has compiled 17 points in 8 quarters…..they will not be able to run and we have seen what happens when they pass (just look at the first half of the earlier game)….they have no hope…..
UWW 35 UMHB 3
December 1st, 2007 at 11:31 pm
also captain cru:
I find it comical that you say the UWW “got lucky” when they posted a 41-14 score on your team. At least the SJF fans have admitted that the better team won. you obviously cant do that…….
December 1st, 2007 at 11:49 pm
Man, what a mess the BCS is!! Missouri and WV both just lost. I love it that in D3, there is no doubt right now who the best 4 teams in the country are.
December 2nd, 2007 at 12:12 am
First of all, just because I have “UMHB” as the first four letters of my name doesn’t mean I am unrealisitic. So please dont shut me out completely.
As far as this week went for UMHB, they won because they had a strong rushing defense (101 yards), forced turnovers (4 fumbles and 1 INT. The INT didn’t happen until late in the fourth quarter, so it really didn’t matter), and because of that they were given opportunities to put the ball in the red zone, and coverted in the red zone (4 for 4). Not all of those four were touchdowns, but they did put points on the board. Also their rushing duo did quite nicely against an amazing defense. The two rushed for a total of 233, while the total team rushing was 289. This was against a team that allows only 88 yards a game on the ground.
As far as next week goes, I would hope that it would be like our encounters with Trinity (Texas) and Wesley in which we played them twice in the playoffs, losing both times, and then third times a charm. I am not sure if that will be the case. UWW is a very good team, and has showed us that the past two years. Are they unbeatable (minus MUC)? Yes. Can UMHB beat them? Yes. Will they? I guess we will find out Saturday.
All predictions aside, as a football fan, I would like to see some new teams in the Stagg Bowl. It gets kind of boring to see the same teams every year on ESPN in mid-December. Especially, when the same team wins every year.
I would like to know something from UWW fans. Do you guys tailgate? If so, are UMHB fans invited? If that’s the case, I’m there. Not to start debates about who the better team is, but to enjoy some good ole tailgating.
December 2nd, 2007 at 12:28 am
Had trouble logging in earlier at the house thanks to bad computer & bad dialup connection. Now that I’m at work, here’s some comments. It’s looking like another MUC-UWW battle in Salem. This is also known as the Purple & Black Bowl or the Bruise Bowl. If UMHB gets in, it will just be the Purple Bowl. Too bad MUC held SJF under 30 points; it would have been a trip to see Ric run naked around Salem Stadium. I hear that a player from SJF plays a pretty mean drum. If I decide to put a band together in 2008, I might be looking for a drummer. If this turns out to be the third consecutive MUC-UWW Purple & Black Bowl, could this be the year that Prince plays the halftime show? Everyone have fun and hope to see you at Salem!
December 2nd, 2007 at 1:16 am
Wesleydad—I gave you guys your credit——–good season and fine job in limiting the MHB running game to what you did(289 yds)——-your 101 yds rushing wasn’t all that and teams tend to have a high passing total against MHB and honestly I really didn’t think MHB would win considering that teams that usually beat them have a decent if not very good passing game—that has always been UMHB’s weakness——I was at the first game, I was actually on the Wesley sidelines and talked to quite a few of their players—–gave the guys their due credit then as well. UMHB didn’t play their best ball against Wesley and I don’t think Wesley did either but then again I don’t think UMHB has encountered a team of Wesley’s caliber throughout the season(except UWW)—-it was a great experience for the kids and a great season for Wesley.
As for Dallas and Bigwheels77, football fanatic, nathanshin and you again mille125————be (man or women) enough if UMHB wins next week to admit the better team won and I will do the same——-and for you nathanshin—–I will eat the crow if UMHB loses(thought you would like that—even though I did go over my allotment)——NEW PREDICTION——–UMHB 24—-UWW 21 Send me the crow if they lose–and if they get pounded like the first game—-I will go into hibernation.
December 2nd, 2007 at 1:56 am
SJFFan
I am singling you out not because I know for a fact that you held this position, but your bold statements make you the obvious choice. Discussion was held before on the idea that Garcon was intentionally not used against SJF last year-a case heavily disputed by you I believe. UWW faced MUC with Garcon in the last two Staggs. You now know, without question, the impact that man has on a game (3 TD’s against STF). I don’t know that anyone can beat MUC at full strength, and now you know as well. Unlike many dreading a UWW-MUC Stagg again, I believe UWW is the best chance DIII has of stopping the dominace, so I hope they handle UMHB again.
December 2nd, 2007 at 7:19 am
To clarify for the Captain… I am not a UWW fan. I just made my prediction earlier. I was really hoping someone would comment on my statement about Beaver, but no one has obliged. I would also like to propose a new rule.
NEW RULE
Anyone who uses the phrase “eat crow” must donate $25 to a charity of your choosing. This will hopefully curb the use of the phrase and when it must be used everyone will know that it is for a good cause.
December 2nd, 2007 at 10:28 am
Very impressive performances by the surviving top 4. Congratulations to all. Should be some very interesting matchups next week.
December 2nd, 2007 at 11:07 am
Booby,
According to local papers, Raider players and Coach Kehres all thought the drum incident was funny. Of course, had it been a Raider player that did it, I doubt LK would have been chuckling. I don’t think it’s a “scar” on the program, just one of those “things” that happen in the course of a season.
December 2nd, 2007 at 11:39 am
CaptainCru
If you or anyone else have to eat Crow let Llama cook it!!!!!
Too bad the Cru fans didn’t visit he Stone Station yesterday. Would have been a good time to chat face to face.
December 2nd, 2007 at 12:29 pm
PA_wesleyfan,
Would have been nice to chat face to face———I could have cooked the bird for you! Wesley had a good season–won’t take anything away from them—-just think it was MHB’s time to get that monkey off their backs. Good luck next year guys———see you guys in Wisconsin
December 2nd, 2007 at 1:40 pm
Here is the way I see it. UMHB and UW-W have one another played twice. Last year the game was determined by the first kick-off returned for a touchdown. This year it was determined by one team taking over and beating the other. There is no such thing as “got lucky” unless we are discussing a spectacular play, etc. turnovers are not luck. On the other hand turnovers are not always an indicator of skill either.
Here is how I see it. MUC will roll through Bethal into the Stagg Bowl. UMHB-UW-W game will be a hard fought battle which will be determined by one or two big plays. Neither umhb nor UW-W are that much more talented or physical than the other. They actually match-up pretty well. Someone will need to gain the upper-hand to win this one:
UMHB will win if: they can run the ball, their defense can stop the pass, & they limit mental mistakes. I have seen them play and they are a very, very good team when not plagued by silly mistakes (mostly stupid penalties).
UW-W will win if: the can pass at will on UMHB, force UMHB to pass (stop the run), and cause UMHB to get outside of their normal game (like happened in the last meeting).
Coach Fred is very good in second games. I believe UMHB will be more prepared for this game, but no matter how much I want to say UMHB can pull this out, I know it will be tough. I will always pull for UMHB, but there is no way I can honestly admit that they will waltz into Whitewater and lay it on the Warhawks.
I am so tired of seeing people from both sides foolishly stating that their perspective team (UMHB or UW-W) will obilerate the other. Personally, I think anyone who thinks this game is gonna be a blow-out (on either side) is out of thier freakin’ mind. I hope that it is a great game and I hope everyone enjoys!
December 2nd, 2007 at 1:59 pm
Here lies the mighty, mighty East…
December 2nd, 2007 at 2:13 pm
Congratulations to all involved in the “Mount Union College” football program. You soundly defeated and went through the East Region as many had predicted. – Much to my dismay.
I sincerely hoped/believed that the gap between you and D3 football or at least between you and the East had been narrowed. Clearly that is not the case yet again.
You are the best until someone can prove otherwise. I am very much looking forward to our future games in the coming seasons.
Thank you for sharing the field with rest
December 2nd, 2007 at 2:14 pm
Congratulations to Bethel, MHB, and UWW.
MHB and UWW your programs are models of consistency.
December 2nd, 2007 at 2:16 pm
MUC93, MUCnash, MUCVA and Ric, -
thanks for the engaging debate and keeping it within bounds.
Your team is the best, and look forward to future games between our respective programs.
December 2nd, 2007 at 2:23 pm
mikem17 Says:
December 2nd, 2007 at 1:56 am
SJFFan - I am singling you out not because I know for a fact that you held this position . . .on the idea that Garcon was intentionally not used against SJF last year.
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Actually Mike, the reason you’re singling me out is because you see a few others doing it, and you just want to be in the crowd with the rest of the sheep. I went back and checked, it did not appear that I was apart of the thread. If you can go back and find it fine I guess, but do not recall. The reason I was not apart of the conspiracy theory on Garcon’s ‘06 production was:
1 - last year’s game was ancient history
2 - MUC did not need to use him as they had a back rushing for 100 yds per quarter - so why mess with success
3 - he was recovering from an injury I believe and
4 - the coverage may have something to do with it as one of the best cover guys (Step.) was on him last year.
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As for this year, he did put up great numbers in a lopsided win versus our back up cover guys. Bottomline, ‘06 is meaningless, MUC is still playing, and SJF is not. And a team’s success is all I care about.
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I don’t really see any issues here so move along Lamb Chops.
December 2nd, 2007 at 2:27 pm
boobyhasgameyo Says:
December 1st, 2007 at 8:44 pm
Yes SJF Fan as I said before good luck making statements that will surely come back to bite you.
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I don’t feel bitten at all. I feel disappointed that there was not a victory. I am disappointed that I was wrong. It is part of life for those that are willing to go farther out on the branches - try it sometime - it is where the fruit is.
I support my teams and am not afraid to say so - Victory is all that I want for them - they worked very hard to get the program to where it is.
December 2nd, 2007 at 2:30 pm
MUC VA Says:
December 1st, 2007 at 11:07 pm
- just re-state my comment - We’ll see where SJF would have placed within the OAC I predicted number 3 or 4…I’ll hold to that prediction.
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Fair enough . . (for now!).
Do you see any OAC teams on the horizon (maybe a team returning most starters etc.) that’ll pose a bigger challenge next season to MUC or will the gap continue to widen for ‘08?
December 2nd, 2007 at 2:42 pm
SJFC1993 - very disappointed that you opted to pile on a kid from our program.
It was a tough playoff game (every see those or did the 0-9’s prevent that?), he wanted to have a little fun and lighten the mood on the sideline, most of the MUC players found it humorous as well.
Is it all that more offensive than another WR running into the crowd with a 40 pt cushion? Or was that just not the cool thing to comment on?
In general WRs have a flare for the dramatic - cut the kid some slack.
December 2nd, 2007 at 3:22 pm
SJFfan,
Curious, did you play at SJFC?
December 2nd, 2007 at 3:33 pm
SJFfan…thanks for your great posts….re: the drum beating and the WR running into the crowd……folks, these are just college kids playing in some of the biggest games of their young lives…something they will remember later in their adult years…..why should they be bashed for having a little fun and enjoying the rewards of their hard work? I neither find what they did offensive or disrespectful to the other teams…. All I can say is folks lighten up, enjoy the games..have a few laughs and remember it is only a game…Both teams work hard for what they do…give them some slack….. Now on to Bethel…GO RAIDERS!
December 2nd, 2007 at 4:56 pm
You know, MUC romped thru the East by a +117 point margin, but I don’t think that we found out anything about the East vis-a-vis the rest of D3 in their doing so. (Has Wesley begun to draw off some talent that was going to Rowan?) I do have a better handle of the teams in the East and will follow the Empire 8 more carefully. Perhaps we are seeing a shift in the East away from the NJAC. My question still remains. How does the rest of the East stack up to the other parts of the country?
We know that the West is the most balanced region, and the Northwest Conference does not w