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		<title>By: neil</title>
		<link>http://www.d3football.com/dailydose/2008/11/16/final-playoff-projection/comment-page-1/#comment-12880</link>
		<dc:creator>neil</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 18 Nov 2008 15:26:04 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>YEP</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>YEP</p>
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		<title>By: muc01nashvegas</title>
		<link>http://www.d3football.com/dailydose/2008/11/16/final-playoff-projection/comment-page-1/#comment-12874</link>
		<dc:creator>muc01nashvegas</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 18 Nov 2008 01:35:14 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I think any of the East teams could beat Mt Union at any point in these playoffs...whether they will or not is another question....if it were my team, i would say our D would have to have best day of it&#039;s life...in order to shut down all the MUC offensive weapons....you cant try and win a shoot out with this year&#039;s team...the name of the game is to slow down the pace, control the ball...bend don&#039;t break on D...and you MUST start well...no room to stumble out of the gates...if you get down early you&#039;ve forced yourself into playing a type of game you most likely won&#039;t win...

all that said though...then you&#039;ve gotta try and put points on the board yourselves...and that aint easy either.....but i do believe a really hungry team can beat MUC....UWW was outright hungry in that stagg last year...when the Raiders smacked them around, UWW smacked them right in the mouth...they were a force to be reckoned with...that along with their playoff experience was enough for them to win...and the UWW coaching staff really brought their A game as well and matched wits with Larry Kehres...

i never count any team completely out....
These teams need to ask themselves how bad they want it...and then it comes down to can they execute enough to reach their goal...</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I think any of the East teams could beat Mt Union at any point in these playoffs&#8230;whether they will or not is another question&#8230;.if it were my team, i would say our D would have to have best day of it&#8217;s life&#8230;in order to shut down all the MUC offensive weapons&#8230;.you cant try and win a shoot out with this year&#8217;s team&#8230;the name of the game is to slow down the pace, control the ball&#8230;bend don&#8217;t break on D&#8230;and you MUST start well&#8230;no room to stumble out of the gates&#8230;if you get down early you&#8217;ve forced yourself into playing a type of game you most likely won&#8217;t win&#8230;</p>
<p>all that said though&#8230;then you&#8217;ve gotta try and put points on the board yourselves&#8230;and that aint easy either&#8230;..but i do believe a really hungry team can beat MUC&#8230;.UWW was outright hungry in that stagg last year&#8230;when the Raiders smacked them around, UWW smacked them right in the mouth&#8230;they were a force to be reckoned with&#8230;that along with their playoff experience was enough for them to win&#8230;and the UWW coaching staff really brought their A game as well and matched wits with Larry Kehres&#8230;</p>
<p>i never count any team completely out&#8230;.<br />
These teams need to ask themselves how bad they want it&#8230;and then it comes down to can they execute enough to reach their goal&#8230;</p>
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		<title>By: Bob.Gregg</title>
		<link>http://www.d3football.com/dailydose/2008/11/16/final-playoff-projection/comment-page-1/#comment-12854</link>
		<dc:creator>Bob.Gregg</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 17 Nov 2008 15:15:12 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&quot;You blame Ithaca for Mount Union to go to the East in a way, just think about it.&quot;

That&#039;s one of the most ridiculous things I&#039;ve ever read at d3football.com.

Ithaca did what they had to do on Saturday.  They won the game that was in front of them.  Had they lost (allowing SUNY-Cortland to go 10-0), the Bombers would likely have been out.

You can blame alot of teams for Mount ending up in the East.  Ithaca isn&#039;t one of them.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>&#8220;You blame Ithaca for Mount Union to go to the East in a way, just think about it.&#8221;</p>
<p>That&#8217;s one of the most ridiculous things I&#8217;ve ever read at d3football.com.</p>
<p>Ithaca did what they had to do on Saturday.  They won the game that was in front of them.  Had they lost (allowing SUNY-Cortland to go 10-0), the Bombers would likely have been out.</p>
<p>You can blame alot of teams for Mount ending up in the East.  Ithaca isn&#8217;t one of them.</p>
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		<title>By: jstunna2387</title>
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		<dc:creator>jstunna2387</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 17 Nov 2008 13:29:02 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I have no argument for Mount Union to be an East Region team, hey give it up for them.My question is was there any team other than Mount Union that could have been moved and put in the East Region as to me it&#039;s a harsh sentence for the East Regional teams and an easy bracket for Mt. Union to take control of?  I am sure they are thrilled to be playing in the East region and at least a national semi-final appearance for them.  You blame Ithaca for Mount Union to go to the East in a way, just think about it.  Now for the remaining East Region teams to get to the final quarterfinals against Union is the goal and one heck of a season.  Can a team in this East Region knock off Mount UNion?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I have no argument for Mount Union to be an East Region team, hey give it up for them.My question is was there any team other than Mount Union that could have been moved and put in the East Region as to me it&#8217;s a harsh sentence for the East Regional teams and an easy bracket for Mt. Union to take control of?  I am sure they are thrilled to be playing in the East region and at least a national semi-final appearance for them.  You blame Ithaca for Mount Union to go to the East in a way, just think about it.  Now for the remaining East Region teams to get to the final quarterfinals against Union is the goal and one heck of a season.  Can a team in this East Region knock off Mount UNion?</p>
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		<title>By: D3Keith</title>
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		<dc:creator>D3Keith</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 16 Nov 2008 18:39:31 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Committee members have said they recuse themselves when discussing games that affect their school, but I guess at some level they all affect each school.

Lot of good points made here.

I&#039;m sure there are going to be some surprises. I would tune in at 3:30, and I&#039;m not just saying it to be a self-promoter. LOTS to learn about how we arrived at what we&#039;ll eventually have.

I strongly disagree with the notion that some team will &quot;unfairly&quot; be left out. Everyone knew what they had to do, and when we start talking about two-loss Pool C teams, they are teams that had no business being in the discussion without the number of upsets yesterday, so they should be (and probably are) thanking their lucky stars for even having a chance, not complaining about being &quot;unfairly&quot; left out.

What&#039;s unfair is that two West Coast teams will likely play each other as usual, and two Texas teams will. No matter how good the SCIAC team is and the ASC runner-up is, they almost never play a home game. Or they don&#039;t have any control over whether or not they do.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Committee members have said they recuse themselves when discussing games that affect their school, but I guess at some level they all affect each school.</p>
<p>Lot of good points made here.</p>
<p>I&#8217;m sure there are going to be some surprises. I would tune in at 3:30, and I&#8217;m not just saying it to be a self-promoter. LOTS to learn about how we arrived at what we&#8217;ll eventually have.</p>
<p>I strongly disagree with the notion that some team will &#8220;unfairly&#8221; be left out. Everyone knew what they had to do, and when we start talking about two-loss Pool C teams, they are teams that had no business being in the discussion without the number of upsets yesterday, so they should be (and probably are) thanking their lucky stars for even having a chance, not complaining about being &#8220;unfairly&#8221; left out.</p>
<p>What&#8217;s unfair is that two West Coast teams will likely play each other as usual, and two Texas teams will. No matter how good the SCIAC team is and the ASC runner-up is, they almost never play a home game. Or they don&#8217;t have any control over whether or not they do.</p>
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		<title>By: USee</title>
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		<dc:creator>USee</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 16 Nov 2008 17:54:14 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Pat,

seems to me a lot is riding on the role of the regional advisory committees that recommend the pool C teams. Remember that is a different committee than the national committee that votes on the 32 teams (although the national committee is made up of reps from the regional committee).  The regional rankings are critical for wheaton in the north as well as the logjam in the east. What do we know about the groundrules they operate with?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Pat,</p>
<p>seems to me a lot is riding on the role of the regional advisory committees that recommend the pool C teams. Remember that is a different committee than the national committee that votes on the 32 teams (although the national committee is made up of reps from the regional committee).  The regional rankings are critical for wheaton in the north as well as the logjam in the east. What do we know about the groundrules they operate with?</p>
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		<title>By: Pat Coleman</title>
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		<dc:creator>Pat Coleman</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 16 Nov 2008 17:46:50 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Agreed with the Wheaton discussion. I think the question is whether Wheaton passed Wooster in the North -- if Wheaton got on the table, I can see them getting a bid the same way UW-Eau Claire did last year. But not sure if what happened on Saturday was enough for that jump to happen.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Agreed with the Wheaton discussion. I think the question is whether Wheaton passed Wooster in the North &#8212; if Wheaton got on the table, I can see them getting a bid the same way UW-Eau Claire did last year. But not sure if what happened on Saturday was enough for that jump to happen.</p>
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		<title>By: USee</title>
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		<dc:creator>USee</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 16 Nov 2008 17:44:58 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Ron,

In regards to Wheaton, the OOWP is just as primary as the OWP. they are not prioritized and wheaton&#039;s is better than Depauws by a large margin. the OWP&#039;s for wheaton and Depauw are .565 and .579 respectively and the OOWP&#039;s are .559 and .510 respectively. That said, the win against a RRO is a trumping card so I agree with you. Montclair is the same analysis with .503 and .518 and a win over a RRO, although its less clear to me because they lost their last game.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Ron,</p>
<p>In regards to Wheaton, the OOWP is just as primary as the OWP. they are not prioritized and wheaton&#8217;s is better than Depauws by a large margin. the OWP&#8217;s for wheaton and Depauw are .565 and .579 respectively and the OOWP&#8217;s are .559 and .510 respectively. That said, the win against a RRO is a trumping card so I agree with you. Montclair is the same analysis with .503 and .518 and a win over a RRO, although its less clear to me because they lost their last game.</p>
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		<title>By: Ron Boerger</title>
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		<dc:creator>Ron Boerger</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 16 Nov 2008 17:01:46 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&#039;85,

as several have said already, with &quot;W&quot;&#039;s yesterday (or earlier in the season) many of the teams left out today could have assured themselves playoff spots.   When you&#039;re down to looking at a two-loss team for the last spot, you have to think that the most deserving teams already got in.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>&#8216;85,</p>
<p>as several have said already, with &#8220;W&#8221;&#8217;s yesterday (or earlier in the season) many of the teams left out today could have assured themselves playoff spots.   When you&#8217;re down to looking at a two-loss team for the last spot, you have to think that the most deserving teams already got in.</p>
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		<title>By: cnu85</title>
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		<dc:creator>cnu85</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 16 Nov 2008 16:13:27 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Wow! I now have a headache trying to figure all this out. The good news is that in about 4 hours, we will all know for sure and the speculation will be over. Good Luck to the fans of the Pool C teams. There are so many deserving teams but only 6 slots. No matter what happens, it will not be &quot;fair&quot; to a few teams.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Wow! I now have a headache trying to figure all this out. The good news is that in about 4 hours, we will all know for sure and the speculation will be over. Good Luck to the fans of the Pool C teams. There are so many deserving teams but only 6 slots. No matter what happens, it will not be &#8220;fair&#8221; to a few teams.</p>
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